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Anonymous wrote:What really *should* have happened if so many Wootton parents weren't so hellbent on getting a brand new school on the current Wootton site AND keeping their entire cluster together (totally unrealistic when it is a boundary study intended to redraw boundaries of multiple schools) is the following:

- Crown HS - populated with DuFief, Stone Mill, Travilah, Rosemont, and Fields Road, (with Fallsmead Rio island going to Crown)

- Wootton (at current location) - Fallsmead (without Rio island), Lakewood, Cold Spring, and Ritchie Park

- RM - Twinbrook, Beall, Bayard Rustin, and College Gardens

This scenario would help to alleviate the overcrowding at RM, focus on geographic proximity for filling Crown while keeping 3 of the Wootton cluster schools together at both current Wootton and Crown, and maximize walkers/minimize buses at Wootton. Right now 100% of Ritchie Park kids are bussed to RM, but at least 60% could walk to Wootton.

I know Ritchie Park wanted to stay at JW and RM, but again, that is nonsensical from a boundary study perspective as well - at least one school in the RM cluster should/should have been moved to fulfill the original plan/promise to alleviate RM overcrowding and Ritchie Park makes the most sense from a geographic, minimizing buses perspective.

There are not enough students for both Wootton and crown from the ES listed above. Churchill has to give some to make it work but Julie yang will not let that happen.

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Anonymous wrote:What really *should* have happened if so many Wootton parents weren't so hellbent on getting a brand new school on the current Wootton site AND keeping their entire cluster together (totally unrealistic when it is a boundary study intended to redraw boundaries of multiple schools) is the following:

- Crown HS - populated with DuFief, Stone Mill, Travilah, Rosemont, and Fields Road, (with Fallsmead Rio island going to Crown)

- Wootton (at current location) - Fallsmead (without Rio island), Lakewood, Cold Spring, and Ritchie Park

- RM - Twinbrook, Beall, Bayard Rustin, and College Gardens

This scenario would help to alleviate the overcrowding at RM, focus on geographic proximity for filling Crown while keeping 3 of the Wootton cluster schools together at both current Wootton and Crown, and maximize walkers/minimize buses at Wootton. Right now 100% of Ritchie Park kids are bussed to RM, but at least 60% could walk to Wootton.

I know Ritchie Park wanted to stay at JW and RM, but again, that is nonsensical from a boundary study perspective as well - at least one school in the RM cluster should/should have been moved to fulfill the original plan/promise to alleviate RM overcrowding and Ritchie Park makes the most sense from a geographic, minimizing buses perspective.

There are not enough students for both Wootton and crown from the ES listed above. Churchill has to give some to make it work but Julie yang will not let that happen.

Anonymous wrote:What really *should* have happened if so many Wootton parents weren't so hellbent on getting a brand new school on the current Wootton site AND keeping their entire cluster together (totally unrealistic when it is a boundary study intended to redraw boundaries of multiple schools) is the following:

- Crown HS - populated with DuFief, Stone Mill, Travilah, Rosemont, and Fields Road, (with Fallsmead Rio island going to Crown)

- Wootton (at current location) - Fallsmead (without Rio island), Lakewood, Cold Spring, and Ritchie Park

- RM - Twinbrook, Beall, Bayard Rustin, and College Gardens

This scenario would help to alleviate the overcrowding at RM, focus on geographic proximity for filling Crown while keeping 3 of the Wootton cluster schools together at both current Wootton and Crown, and maximize walkers/minimize buses at Wootton. Right now 100% of Ritchie Park kids are bussed to RM, but at least 60% could walk to Wootton.

I know Ritchie Park wanted to stay at JW and RM, but again, that is nonsensical from a boundary study perspective as well - at least one school in the RM cluster should/should have been moved to fulfill the original plan/promise to alleviate RM overcrowding and Ritchie Park makes the most sense from a geographic, minimizing buses perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear the naysayers on this thread are likely residents of Crown or its environs whose kids don’t or wouldn’t go to Wootton where it is today. They’re excited about opening a new school (built for someone else) and calling it Wootton (a lie) to boost their property values and improve the Gaithersburg tax base.

The fact that Wootton families are almost universally opposed to closing Wootton and transplanting some of its students to Crown should speak volumes to the BOE. Unfortunately, political deals have been cut to cover up MCPS’ incompetence and reward Gaithersburg with a “W” school (which used to have a well-performing school in QO, but no longer). I guess it’s equity at work once again.

Can you elaborate?

It’s obvious to anyone who is familiar with the facts how all of this came about.

If you live around DC, this is politics 101.

Anonymous wrote:What really *should* have happened if so many Wootton parents weren't so hellbent on getting a brand new school on the current Wootton site AND keeping their entire cluster together (totally unrealistic when it is a boundary study intended to redraw boundaries of multiple schools) is the following:

- Crown HS - populated with DuFief, Stone Mill, Travilah, Rosemont, and Fields Road, (with Fallsmead Rio island going to Crown)

- Wootton (at current location) - Fallsmead (without Rio island), Lakewood, Cold Spring, and Ritchie Park

- RM - Twinbrook, Beall, Bayard Rustin, and College Gardens

This scenario would help to alleviate the overcrowding at RM, focus on geographic proximity for filling Crown while keeping 3 of the Wootton cluster schools together at both current Wootton and Crown, and maximize walkers/minimize buses at Wootton. Right now 100% of Ritchie Park kids are bussed to RM, but at least 60% could walk to Wootton.

I know Ritchie Park wanted to stay at JW and RM, but again, that is nonsensical from a boundary study perspective as well - at least one school in the RM cluster should/should have been moved to fulfill the original plan/promise to alleviate RM overcrowding and Ritchie Park makes the most sense from a geographic, minimizing buses perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear the naysayers on this thread are likely residents of Crown or its environs whose kids don’t or wouldn’t go to Wootton where it is today. They’re excited about opening a new school (built for someone else) and calling it Wootton (a lie) to boost their property values and improve the Gaithersburg tax base.

The fact that Wootton families are almost universally opposed to closing Wootton and transplanting some of its students to Crown should speak volumes to the BOE. Unfortunately, political deals have been cut to cover up MCPS’ incompetence and reward Gaithersburg with a “W” school (which used to have a well-performing school in QO, but no longer). I guess it’s equity at work once again.

Can you elaborate?

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

You've been to Crown right? It's like Kentlands / Lakelands.

The Crown Farm shopping center is on one end; the school is on the other end. Between them is half a mile of dense housing (townhouses, single family houses) with no shopping. It is very residential.

Since when is it called Crown Farm?

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

You've been to Crown right? It's like Kentlands / Lakelands.

The Crown Farm shopping center is on one end; the school is on the other end. Between them is half a mile of dense housing (townhouses, single family houses) with no shopping. It is very residential.

Since when is it called Crown Farm?

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

You've been to Crown right? It's like Kentlands / Lakelands.

The Crown Farm shopping center is on one end; the school is on the other end. Between them is half a mile of dense housing (townhouses, single family houses) with no shopping. It is very residential.

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

And for decades Wootton (including when I attended Wootton in the 90s) had a huge Giant, chinese takeout restaurant, video rental store, medical and dental offices, a hair dresser, a bank (I think at one point it was 2 banks one with a drive through teller, movie rental place, and gift store all across the street.

I really don't understand this argument about retail especially since Wootton used to be right across from a shopping center and the new houses going up on the old shopping center site across from the current Wootton are going to include multiple RETAIL businesses there, too - you are grasping at straws here. Crown is a mixed use development which is what almost all new developments are - a combination of retail and housing. And the new development directly across the street from the current Wootton location will be very similar mixed use housing and commercial/retail.

Same poster as above - and ALSO many MCPS high schools are close to retail and busy roads - I really don't understand this concern. Walter Johnson is next door to a huge shopping complex with a 2nd one across the street and Montgomery Mall down the road. The new Woodward is on busy Old Georgetown Road a major thoroughfare just off of 270 and 495, Blair HS sits on the corner of one of the busiest intersections in Montgomery County. All of those schools (and probably others I don't know as well) are arguably in much busier, more traffic/congested areas, with a larger amount of retail than the lot that Crown sits on.

Plus, part of current Fallsmead boundaries are WALKING DISTANCE to Crown. No boundary changes needed - but some people are upset that a *different* set of Fallsmead students will be walkers to the new school building???

Of course they are. They feel entitled to be walkers based on their home purchase. It is natural for them to be upset but MCPS can't make decisions based on their comfort.

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

And for decades Wootton (including when I attended Wootton in the 90s) had a huge Giant, chinese takeout restaurant, video rental store, medical and dental offices, a hair dresser, a bank (I think at one point it was 2 banks one with a drive through teller, movie rental place, and gift store all across the street.

I really don't understand this argument about retail especially since Wootton used to be right across from a shopping center and the new houses going up on the old shopping center site across from the current Wootton are going to include multiple RETAIL businesses there, too - you are grasping at straws here. Crown is a mixed use development which is what almost all new developments are - a combination of retail and housing. And the new development directly across the street from the current Wootton location will be very similar mixed use housing and commercial/retail.

Same poster as above - and ALSO many MCPS high schools are close to retail and busy roads - I really don't understand this concern. Walter Johnson is next door to a huge shopping complex with a 2nd one across the street and Montgomery Mall down the road. The new Woodward is on busy Old Georgetown Road a major thoroughfare just off of 270 and 495, Blair HS sits on the corner of one of the busiest intersections in Montgomery County. All of those schools (and probably others I don't know as well) are arguably in much busier, more traffic/congested areas, with a larger amount of retail than the lot that Crown sits on.

Plus, part of current Fallsmead boundaries are WALKING DISTANCE to Crown. No boundary changes needed - but some people are upset that a *different* set of Fallsmead students will be walkers to the new school building???

Of course they are. They feel entitled to be walkers based on their home purchase. It is natural for them to be upset but MCPS can't make decisions based on their comfort.

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

And for decades Wootton (including when I attended Wootton in the 90s) had a huge Giant, chinese takeout restaurant, video rental store, medical and dental offices, a hair dresser, a bank (I think at one point it was 2 banks one with a drive through teller, movie rental place, and gift store all across the street.

I really don't understand this argument about retail especially since Wootton used to be right across from a shopping center and the new houses going up on the old shopping center site across from the current Wootton are going to include multiple RETAIL businesses there, too - you are grasping at straws here. Crown is a mixed use development which is what almost all new developments are - a combination of retail and housing. And the new development directly across the street from the current Wootton location will be very similar mixed use housing and commercial/retail.

Same poster as above - and ALSO many MCPS high schools are close to retail and busy roads - I really don't understand this concern. Walter Johnson is next door to a huge shopping complex with a 2nd one across the street and Montgomery Mall down the road. The new Woodward is on busy Old Georgetown Road a major thoroughfare just off of 270 and 495, Blair HS sits on the corner of one of the busiest intersections in Montgomery County. All of those schools (and probably others I don't know as well) are arguably in much busier, more traffic/congested areas, with a larger amount of retail than the lot that Crown sits on.

Plus, part of current Fallsmead boundaries are WALKING DISTANCE to Crown. No boundary changes needed - but some people are upset that a *different* set of Fallsmead students will be walkers to the new school building???

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Anonymous wrote:Why people keep fixating on Wootton parkway, it’s old layout, one way traffic, certainly not what modern school campus about.

And building a high capacity school in an urban, highly congested traffic area makes sense? At least Wootton is in a residential neighborhood.

Crown is also a residential neighborhood. Many students will be able to walk there.

You know this isn’t a proper comparison. Crown is basically a huge shopping center that has some apartments and townhouses-No normal person would describe it as a residential neighborhood. The neighborhoods adjacent to Wootton aren’t also adjacent to Harris Teeter etc…

And for decades Wootton (including when I attended Wootton in the 90s) had a huge Giant, chinese takeout restaurant, video rental store, medical and dental offices, a hair dresser, a bank (I think at one point it was 2 banks one with a drive through teller, movie rental place, and gift store all across the street.

I really don't understand this argument about retail especially since Wootton used to be right across from a shopping center and the new houses going up on the old shopping center site across from the current Wootton are going to include multiple RETAIL businesses there, too - you are grasping at straws here. Crown is a mixed use development which is what almost all new developments are - a combination of retail and housing. And the new development directly across the street from the current Wootton location will be very similar mixed use housing and commercial/retail.