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Anonymous wrote:The whole deposition thing with Mel is annoying me. All of her scenes are just snippets of her worrying about it. She’s not doing any cool dr stuff. They have totally put her character on the back burner this season. Disappointing.

Bro, as someone with autism, that's a really good way to depict how all-encompassing an obsessive thought or stressor can be. It's literally the only thing she's thinking about. No, she's not doing "cool dr stuff". Her brain wouldn't allow for that until the stressor was addressed/resolved.

Sorry it annoys you. Be glad you don't get it, I guess?

I think you’ve missed my point, bro, but thanks for the post. Go back to your homework now.

homework? weird flex

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Anonymous wrote:The whole deposition thing with Mel is annoying me. All of her scenes are just snippets of her worrying about it. She’s not doing any cool dr stuff. They have totally put her character on the back burner this season. Disappointing.

Bro, as someone with autism, that's a really good way to depict how all-encompassing an obsessive thought or stressor can be. It's literally the only thing she's thinking about. No, she's not doing "cool dr stuff". Her brain wouldn't allow for that until the stressor was addressed/resolved.

Sorry it annoys you. Be glad you don't get it, I guess?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole deposition thing with Mel is annoying me. All of her scenes are just snippets of her worrying about it. She’s not doing any cool dr stuff. They have totally put her character on the back burner this season. Disappointing.

Bro, as someone with autism, that's a really good way to depict how all-encompassing an obsessive thought or stressor can be. It's literally the only thing she's thinking about. No, she's not doing "cool dr stuff". Her brain wouldn't allow for that until the stressor was addressed/resolved.

Sorry it annoys you. Be glad you don't get it, I guess?

I think you’ve missed my point, bro, but thanks for the post. Go back to your homework now.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole deposition thing with Mel is annoying me. All of her scenes are just snippets of her worrying about it. She’s not doing any cool dr stuff. They have totally put her character on the back burner this season. Disappointing.

Bro, as someone with autism, that's a really good way to depict how all-encompassing an obsessive thought or stressor can be. It's literally the only thing she's thinking about. No, she's not doing "cool dr stuff". Her brain wouldn't allow for that until the stressor was addressed/resolved.

Sorry it annoys you. Be glad you don't get it, I guess?

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to make it so graphic? They’ll even show genitalia

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Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to make it so graphic? They’ll even show genitalia

It's about an ER, not tea and cakes, hon. Why are you watching a show about humans and their bodies if human bodies upset you so?

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to make it so graphic? They’ll even show genitalia

Anonymous wrote:The whole deposition thing with Mel is annoying me. All of her scenes are just snippets of her worrying about it. She’s not doing any cool dr stuff. They have totally put her character on the back burner this season. Disappointing.

Anonymous wrote:Did you see how broken Langdon was when Robby said I don’t know if I want you working in my ER?

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I doubt most viewers are familiar with the term “ eidetic memory.”

First, this show uses a ton of terms that most viewers aren't familiar with. Second, the Big Bang Theory used eidetic memory! If their viewers can get it, Pitt viewers can get it.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys should watch the YouTube commentary from a real doctor (OB/GYN) discussing the Pitt and how realistic it is. There are definitely things that aren’t correct. It was eye opening.

I mean if you are watching it thinking it's a documentary about a real ED, you are missing the point of the show.

It's realISM. It's not reality. Of course they are going to alter some things to fit their narrative arcs, or because they want to show a specific side of a character, or because of the "single shift" conceit which forces them to pack a bunch of things into a single day that in reality would not all happen on the same day.

Like is it realistic that Langdon would be returning to work post-rehab before meeting with, at a minimum, the senior members of the ED staff to discuss his re-entry and the parameters of the program he's in? No, in reality he would have had a sit down meeting with Robby, Dr. Al-Hashidi, likely Dana, and probably a hospital administrator, prior to his first shift. If he had 12-step amends to make with Robby and Dana, he would have made them at that meeting or outside the hospital. He would not be meeting Dr. Al-Hashidi on the job, between patients.

But by making an unrealistic choice (having Langdon returning to work on Robby's last day before sabbatical and on Dr. Al-Hashimi's first day at the Pitt), the show creates some interesting character and plot opportunities to allow them to tell Langdon's story in a way that might get at the truth *underneath* better than a protracted show that portrayed that administrative meeting happening before this shift. Because The Pitt is engaged in storytelling, not documenting. They are more interested in the emotional and relationship implications of Langdon's story, and getting that right, than in portraying exactly what it looks like for a doctor with substance abuse issues to return to work after rehab.

The point is to let us see Patrick Ball and Noah Wyle in an elevator, looking at each other (or avoiding looking at each other) and feel the weight of their history and the needs and motivations of their characters, right before the elevator doors burst open onto a helipad with a critical patient coming in who will require their focus and expertise. You can't create that moment if you are 100% honest about how these situation play out IRL. But the moment is powerful in a way that a more accurate version is not. You give a little to get a lot.

It’s ok for people to point out some flaws though. We don’t have to always have to be all sunshine and rainbows about the show. Again you’re taking it way too seriously.

PPs aren’t being all about sunshine and rainbows. They’re just pointing out that it is fiction, not a documentary. All legal shows aren’t 100% accurate, nor are crime shows. But as usual, pedantic posters fixate on insignificant details and act as if it changes the entire trajectory of the story.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm still stuck on a few things here after last night...

1) Mel's anxiety about the deposition is understandable. But, again, who is having a deposition on the Fourth of July? In what world?

2) It's pretty clear that Abbot is going to be balls deep in al-Hashimi soon. Holy cow. Assuming Mohan doesn't throw herself at him first. The way she treated that bullet graze ... oh boy.

3) I was really worried with the rape SANE scene there that they were going to depict this as some kind of regretted sex incident. On the one hand, it was fascinating to see how they process victims of SA, OTOH some of the compassion came across as a little condescending. And then when she refused the genital swab... Also, we're seven hours in to the episode, which makes it about 2 p.m. I'm trying to understand how she got sexually assaulted at a 4th of a July BBQ by a drunk friend in the middle of the day?

4) Cyberattack? Really? Come on, now.

5) To that end, what was with the goofy CEO summoning al-Hashimi but not Robby? Robby looked Big Mad.

6) Where the hell was Whitacker/Huckleberry last night? And what's with this "he spends all his time at this widow's farm" storyline? Are we to believe he's balls deep in the widow and raising a dead man's child?

At least not motorcycles sans helmet talk in this episode. They were starting to lay the foreshadowing on thick earlier.

I still love this show but I agree that the reality of the timing of the incidents is weird, case in point the depo on July Fourth or the kid studying in the college library in July?

I also feel like the scenes jump around much more this season so we are getting less of each player - like Whittacker last night and McKay has hardly been in this season at all.

studying for the bar exam on July 4th totally tracks

Maybe at home, but not in the library at 7am.

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My kid doesn’t study at home. He’s always in library, lab, some other building on campus to study. And yes at 7am in summer.

I don't think the library would be open at 7am on July 4.

Some campuses have 24/7 libraries (my school had one).

And studying at 7am may be on purpose to show something is off with his mental state.

Even the Harvard Law library doesn't open until 8 a.m. and is closed all day on the Fourth of July.

But we're talking about Pitt. It's open 24/7.

Incorrect. Pitt’s law library, the Barco, also opens at 8 a.m. and is closed on July 4th. https://www.library.law.pitt.edu/about/library-service-desk-hours

Who cares? It is an insignificant detail to a fictional show to introduce a story line.

Because one of the things that made season 1 good was its attention to details and being accurate. The second season didn't need to take place specifically on July 4, but once the writers made that decision, they should have followed through on the details.

+1. Did you notice the rape survivor says she was preparing the bbq - then the rape - but it’s only 12 p.m. in the ER. She should have been out later in the “day”.

Maybe she went to a bbq on July 3rd evening? WHO CARES! Just watch the show!

Well, obviously a lot of people do, based upon the remarks here. Why can’t people talk about flaws in the story line? Tonight’s was using the term “photographic memory”. That term has been out of use for at least two decades. It’s now called “eidetic memory” and there are many types.

Who made you forum police?

I doubt most viewers are familiar with the term “ eidetic memory.”

No, but doctors would know it. I guess this is the challenge for the show's writers, although they use medical terminology viewers wouldn't understand all the time.

Nurses wouldn't necessarily know it, nor would admins or other hospital personnel. It was said in a crisis situation where the person speaking wanted to convey that she could help with a critical problem. She wasn't bragging about her special skill, and was actually sharing the info reluctantly.

I know it's hard for DCUM know-it-alls to understand this, but there are actually people in the world who choose to speak in a way to be understood, not to impress people with their vocabulary.

Bunch of Ogilvies in this thread.

Why do you have to insult others to make your point?

Because people in this thread are being incredibly pedantic about the show and nit picking stuff that isn't even incorrect. It's frustrating when you like something (like this actually very good show) and people incessantly want to point out everything that's wrong with it, even when it's not wrong.

It's hard to make art, and this show puts way more effort into making something realistic, honest, and compelling than like 99% of television shows. Only to have people half-watch the show while scrolling their phones and then complain that they are mad the show used the term "photographic" instead of "eidetic", somehow insulting their intelligence, because even though they've never written or acted or directed anything worth watching, they do take pride in knowing $20 words that the average person does not know.

It's like being served a really good sauvignon blanc that wine experts spent years making only to have someone insist on pissing in it because they are certain their piss will taste better than a perfectly good wine.

NP. You need to step away from the keyboard and stop being the thread police. You sound unhinged…about a TV show.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys should watch the YouTube commentary from a real doctor (OB/GYN) discussing the Pitt and how realistic it is. There are definitely things that aren’t correct. It was eye opening.

I mean if you are watching it thinking it's a documentary about a real ED, you are missing the point of the show.

It's realISM. It's not reality. Of course they are going to alter some things to fit their narrative arcs, or because they want to show a specific side of a character, or because of the "single shift" conceit which forces them to pack a bunch of things into a single day that in reality would not all happen on the same day.

Like is it realistic that Langdon would be returning to work post-rehab before meeting with, at a minimum, the senior members of the ED staff to discuss his re-entry and the parameters of the program he's in? No, in reality he would have had a sit down meeting with Robby, Dr. Al-Hashidi, likely Dana, and probably a hospital administrator, prior to his first shift. If he had 12-step amends to make with Robby and Dana, he would have made them at that meeting or outside the hospital. He would not be meeting Dr. Al-Hashidi on the job, between patients.

But by making an unrealistic choice (having Langdon returning to work on Robby's last day before sabbatical and on Dr. Al-Hashimi's first day at the Pitt), the show creates some interesting character and plot opportunities to allow them to tell Langdon's story in a way that might get at the truth *underneath* better than a protracted show that portrayed that administrative meeting happening before this shift. Because The Pitt is engaged in storytelling, not documenting. They are more interested in the emotional and relationship implications of Langdon's story, and getting that right, than in portraying exactly what it looks like for a doctor with substance abuse issues to return to work after rehab.

The point is to let us see Patrick Ball and Noah Wyle in an elevator, looking at each other (or avoiding looking at each other) and feel the weight of their history and the needs and motivations of their characters, right before the elevator doors burst open onto a helipad with a critical patient coming in who will require their focus and expertise. You can't create that moment if you are 100% honest about how these situation play out IRL. But the moment is powerful in a way that a more accurate version is not. You give a little to get a lot.

It’s ok for people to point out some flaws though. We don’t have to always have to be all sunshine and rainbows about the show. Again you’re taking it way too seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I'm still stuck on a few things here after last night...

1) Mel's anxiety about the deposition is understandable. But, again, who is having a deposition on the Fourth of July? In what world?

2) It's pretty clear that Abbot is going to be balls deep in al-Hashimi soon. Holy cow. Assuming Mohan doesn't throw herself at him first. The way she treated that bullet graze ... oh boy.

3) I was really worried with the rape SANE scene there that they were going to depict this as some kind of regretted sex incident. On the one hand, it was fascinating to see how they process victims of SA, OTOH some of the compassion came across as a little condescending. And then when she refused the genital swab... Also, we're seven hours in to the episode, which makes it about 2 p.m. I'm trying to understand how she got sexually assaulted at a 4th of a July BBQ by a drunk friend in the middle of the day?

4) Cyberattack? Really? Come on, now.

5) To that end, what was with the goofy CEO summoning al-Hashimi but not Robby? Robby looked Big Mad.

6) Where the hell was Whitacker/Huckleberry last night? And what's with this "he spends all his time at this widow's farm" storyline? Are we to believe he's balls deep in the widow and raising a dead man's child?

At least not motorcycles sans helmet talk in this episode. They were starting to lay the foreshadowing on thick earlier.

I still love this show but I agree that the reality of the timing of the incidents is weird, case in point the depo on July Fourth or the kid studying in the college library in July?

I also feel like the scenes jump around much more this season so we are getting less of each player - like Whittacker last night and McKay has hardly been in this season at all.

studying for the bar exam on July 4th totally tracks

Maybe at home, but not in the library at 7am.

.

My kid doesn’t study at home. He’s always in library, lab, some other building on campus to study. And yes at 7am in summer.

I don't think the library would be open at 7am on July 4.

Some campuses have 24/7 libraries (my school had one).

And studying at 7am may be on purpose to show something is off with his mental state.

Even the Harvard Law library doesn't open until 8 a.m. and is closed all day on the Fourth of July.

But we're talking about Pitt. It's open 24/7.

Incorrect. Pitt’s law library, the Barco, also opens at 8 a.m. and is closed on July 4th. https://www.library.law.pitt.edu/about/library-service-desk-hours

Who cares? It is an insignificant detail to a fictional show to introduce a story line.

Because one of the things that made season 1 good was its attention to details and being accurate. The second season didn't need to take place specifically on July 4, but once the writers made that decision, they should have followed through on the details.

+1. Did you notice the rape survivor says she was preparing the bbq - then the rape - but it’s only 12 p.m. in the ER. She should have been out later in the “day”.

Maybe she went to a bbq on July 3rd evening? WHO CARES! Just watch the show!

Well, obviously a lot of people do, based upon the remarks here. Why can’t people talk about flaws in the story line? Tonight’s was using the term “photographic memory”. That term has been out of use for at least two decades. It’s now called “eidetic memory” and there are many types.

Who made you forum police?

I doubt most viewers are familiar with the term “ eidetic memory.”

No, but doctors would know it. I guess this is the challenge for the show's writers, although they use medical terminology viewers wouldn't understand all the time.

Nurses wouldn't necessarily know it, nor would admins or other hospital personnel. It was said in a crisis situation where the person speaking wanted to convey that she could help with a critical problem. She wasn't bragging about her special skill, and was actually sharing the info reluctantly.

I know it's hard for DCUM know-it-alls to understand this, but there are actually people in the world who choose to speak in a way to be understood, not to impress people with their vocabulary.

Bunch of Ogilvies in this thread.

Why do you have to insult others to make your point?

Because people in this thread are being incredibly pedantic about the show and nit picking stuff that isn't even incorrect. It's frustrating when you like something (like this actually very good show) and people incessantly want to point out everything that's wrong with it, even when it's not wrong.

It's hard to make art, and this show puts way more effort into making something realistic, honest, and compelling than like 99% of television shows. Only to have people half-watch the show while scrolling their phones and then complain that they are mad the show used the term "photographic" instead of "eidetic", somehow insulting their intelligence, because even though they've never written or acted or directed anything worth watching, they do take pride in knowing $20 words that the average person does not know.

It's like being served a really good sauvignon blanc that wine experts spent years making only to have someone insist on pissing in it because they are certain their piss will taste better than a perfectly good wine.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys should watch the YouTube commentary from a real doctor (OB/GYN) discussing the Pitt and how realistic it is. There are definitely things that aren’t correct. It was eye opening.

I mean if you are watching it thinking it's a documentary about a real ED, you are missing the point of the show.

It's realISM. It's not reality. Of course they are going to alter some things to fit their narrative arcs, or because they want to show a specific side of a character, or because of the "single shift" conceit which forces them to pack a bunch of things into a single day that in reality would not all happen on the same day.

Like is it realistic that Langdon would be returning to work post-rehab before meeting with, at a minimum, the senior members of the ED staff to discuss his re-entry and the parameters of the program he's in? No, in reality he would have had a sit down meeting with Robby, Dr. Al-Hashidi, likely Dana, and probably a hospital administrator, prior to his first shift. If he had 12-step amends to make with Robby and Dana, he would have made them at that meeting or outside the hospital. He would not be meeting Dr. Al-Hashidi on the job, between patients.

But by making an unrealistic choice (having Langdon returning to work on Robby's last day before sabbatical and on Dr. Al-Hashimi's first day at the Pitt), the show creates some interesting character and plot opportunities to allow them to tell Langdon's story in a way that might get at the truth *underneath* better than a protracted show that portrayed that administrative meeting happening before this shift. Because The Pitt is engaged in storytelling, not documenting. They are more interested in the emotional and relationship implications of Langdon's story, and getting that right, than in portraying exactly what it looks like for a doctor with substance abuse issues to return to work after rehab.

The point is to let us see Patrick Ball and Noah Wyle in an elevator, looking at each other (or avoiding looking at each other) and feel the weight of their history and the needs and motivations of their characters, right before the elevator doors burst open onto a helipad with a critical patient coming in who will require their focus and expertise. You can't create that moment if you are 100% honest about how these situation play out IRL. But the moment is powerful in a way that a more accurate version is not. You give a little to get a lot.