Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 19:58     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

So summary executions? The “law and order” maga are all for this. What is the penalty for rape? You will stand up for blowing up boats and murdering 65 people because drugs but a rapists? No castration or blowing up of cars and boats by the US military for rape?

Rule for thee no rules for me!
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 19:06     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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lol wow this is such convincing “evidence”.


I assume you have clearance Clarence for the classified information?


Let me quote the 5th amendment the Constitution of the United States of America:

“[b]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury…nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;[\b]

Didn’t you learn any of this stuff in school?


That doesn't apply here since the Patriot Act. Keep up.


Everyone before the Patriot Act: "Republicans keep taking away rights and due process"

Republicans: "Stop being hysterical, that'll never happen"

Some things just keep repeating over and over again.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 18:45     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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lol wow this is such convincing “evidence”.


I assume you have clearance Clarence for the classified information?


Let me quote the 5th amendment the Constitution of the United States of America:

“[b]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury…nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;[\b]

Didn’t you learn any of this stuff in school?


That doesn't apply here since the Patriot Act. Keep up.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 16:28     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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lol wow this is such convincing “evidence”.


I assume you have clearance Clarence for the classified information?


Let me quote the 5th amendment the Constitution of the United States of America:

“[b]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury…nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;[\b]

Didn’t you learn any of this stuff in school?
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 16:08     Subject: US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

They haven't even named what cartels the boats supposedly belong to, FFS.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 16:05     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!




I appreciate your making the effort to answer.


As for your points: Why are they doing it this way? I think there’s a couple reasons-

1) shock value to the cartels and smugglers. No one is afraid of getting arrested by the Americans. We treat you well, feed you good food, take care of you. Sure, you’ll be confined for a period of time until you get released pending trial - which you’ll never have to appear for - but all in all, no one is afraid to be a smuggler and get caught by Las Yanquis. Until now, that is. No one wants to get blown up without warning. That’s the reason they’re releasing all these videos - so other potential smugglers can see it, and understand the rules have definitely changed.

2) evidence? Probably they don’t want to reveal sources and methods for their intelligence gathering for tracking the boats. Probably a combination of physical surveillance with drones, electronic surveillance and human assets. A combination of all three to determine boats to targeted. They don’t want to reveal any of that, and that’s understandable.

3) why not arrest them at their destination? How about simple risk mitigation? Why put your personnel at risk of a firefight or engagement with the narcos if you’re already willing to just blow them up ? When I was a Bradley commander during OEF, and we were in-contact with hostiles and taking fire from a location, I didn’t send a squad in to engage them - I just ordered the gunner to knock down the structure with 20mm or MK19 rounds. I wasn’t putting my guys in a firefight when just flattening the building would suffice, and keep us all safe. The Navy and USCG is making the same decision here.

4) It sends a not-subtle message that there’s a new Sheriff in town. Things are different now. Very different. And the administration wants that message delivered.


What a load of half a$$ bullsh#t. So no evidence just murdering people because it is good on Twitter? WTF is wrong with you people.


Yes, it's complete bullshit.

Nobody is asking them to "reveal sources and methods" or anything classified. The world's most advanced Navy can't manage to produce even something basic, like one video clip of something like going to the site of a destroyed boat and retrieving bales of drugs? That doesn't require revealing classified info. But instead we get NOTHING. The fact that they can't even do that speaks volumes.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 15:49     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!




I appreciate your making the effort to answer.


As for your points: Why are they doing it this way? I think there’s a couple reasons-

1) shock value to the cartels and smugglers. No one is afraid of getting arrested by the Americans. We treat you well, feed you good food, take care of you. Sure, you’ll be confined for a period of time until you get released pending trial - which you’ll never have to appear for - but all in all, no one is afraid to be a smuggler and get caught by Las Yanquis. Until now, that is. No one wants to get blown up without warning. That’s the reason they’re releasing all these videos - so other potential smugglers can see it, and understand the rules have definitely changed.

2) evidence? Probably they don’t want to reveal sources and methods for their intelligence gathering for tracking the boats. Probably a combination of physical surveillance with drones, electronic surveillance and human assets. A combination of all three to determine boats to targeted. They don’t want to reveal any of that, and that’s understandable.

3) why not arrest them at their destination? How about simple risk mitigation? Why put your personnel at risk of a firefight or engagement with the narcos if you’re already willing to just blow them up ? When I was a Bradley commander during OEF, and we were in-contact with hostiles and taking fire from a location, I didn’t send a squad in to engage them - I just ordered the gunner to knock down the structure with 20mm or MK19 rounds. I wasn’t putting my guys in a firefight when just flattening the building would suffice, and keep us all safe. The Navy and USCG is making the same decision here.

4) It sends a not-subtle message that there’s a new Sheriff in town. Things are different now. Very different. And the administration wants that message delivered.


What a load of half a$$ bullsh#t. So no evidence just murdering people because it is good on Twitter? WTF is wrong with you people.




You sound like you think you’re really smart.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 13:32     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!




I appreciate your making the effort to answer.


As for your points: Why are they doing it this way? I think there’s a couple reasons-

1) shock value to the cartels and smugglers. No one is afraid of getting arrested by the Americans. We treat you well, feed you good food, take care of you. Sure, you’ll be confined for a period of time until you get released pending trial - which you’ll never have to appear for - but all in all, no one is afraid to be a smuggler and get caught by Las Yanquis. Until now, that is. No one wants to get blown up without warning. That’s the reason they’re releasing all these videos - so other potential smugglers can see it, and understand the rules have definitely changed.

2) evidence? Probably they don’t want to reveal sources and methods for their intelligence gathering for tracking the boats. Probably a combination of physical surveillance with drones, electronic surveillance and human assets. A combination of all three to determine boats to targeted. They don’t want to reveal any of that, and that’s understandable.

3) why not arrest them at their destination? How about simple risk mitigation? Why put your personnel at risk of a firefight or engagement with the narcos if you’re already willing to just blow them up ? When I was a Bradley commander during OEF, and we were in-contact with hostiles and taking fire from a location, I didn’t send a squad in to engage them - I just ordered the gunner to knock down the structure with 20mm or MK19 rounds. I wasn’t putting my guys in a firefight when just flattening the building would suffice, and keep us all safe. The Navy and USCG is making the same decision here.

4) It sends a not-subtle message that there’s a new Sheriff in town. Things are different now. Very different. And the administration wants that message delivered.


What a load of half a$$ bullsh#t. So no evidence just murdering people because it is good on Twitter? WTF is wrong with you people.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 13:28     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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lol wow this is such convincing “evidence”.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!




I appreciate your making the effort to answer.


As for your points: Why are they doing it this way? I think there’s a couple reasons-

1) shock value to the cartels and smugglers. No one is afraid of getting arrested by the Americans. We treat you well, feed you good food, take care of you. Sure, you’ll be confined for a period of time until you get released pending trial - which you’ll never have to appear for - but all in all, no one is afraid to be a smuggler and get caught by Las Yanquis. Until now, that is. No one wants to get blown up without warning. That’s the reason they’re releasing all these videos - so other potential smugglers can see it, and understand the rules have definitely changed.

2) evidence? Probably they don’t want to reveal sources and methods for their intelligence gathering for tracking the boats. Probably a combination of physical surveillance with drones, electronic surveillance and human assets. A combination of all three to determine boats to targeted. They don’t want to reveal any of that, and that’s understandable.

3) why not arrest them at their destination? How about simple risk mitigation? Why put your personnel at risk of a firefight or engagement with the narcos if you’re already willing to just blow them up ? When I was a Bradley commander during OEF, and we were in-contact with hostiles and taking fire from a location, I didn’t send a squad in to engage them - I just ordered the gunner to knock down the structure with 20mm or MK19 rounds. I wasn’t putting my guys in a firefight when just flattening the building would suffice, and keep us all safe. The Navy and USCG is making the same decision here.

4) It sends a not-subtle message that there’s a new Sheriff in town. Things are different now. Very different. And the administration wants that message delivered.


NP. Thank you for your service. Brilliant response.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 09:32     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!




I appreciate your making the effort to answer.


As for your points: Why are they doing it this way? I think there’s a couple reasons-

1) shock value to the cartels and smugglers. No one is afraid of getting arrested by the Americans. We treat you well, feed you good food, take care of you. Sure, you’ll be confined for a period of time until you get released pending trial - which you’ll never have to appear for - but all in all, no one is afraid to be a smuggler and get caught by Las Yanquis. Until now, that is. No one wants to get blown up without warning. That’s the reason they’re releasing all these videos - so other potential smugglers can see it, and understand the rules have definitely changed.

2) evidence? Probably they don’t want to reveal sources and methods for their intelligence gathering for tracking the boats. Probably a combination of physical surveillance with drones, electronic surveillance and human assets. A combination of all three to determine boats to targeted. They don’t want to reveal any of that, and that’s understandable.

3) why not arrest them at their destination? How about simple risk mitigation? Why put your personnel at risk of a firefight or engagement with the narcos if you’re already willing to just blow them up ? When I was a Bradley commander during OEF, and we were in-contact with hostiles and taking fire from a location, I didn’t send a squad in to engage them - I just ordered the gunner to knock down the structure with 20mm or MK19 rounds. I wasn’t putting my guys in a firefight when just flattening the building would suffice, and keep us all safe. The Navy and USCG is making the same decision here.

4) It sends a not-subtle message that there’s a new Sheriff in town. Things are different now. Very different. And the administration wants that message delivered.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 07:49     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!


It sets a disturbing precedent of this administration just claiming someone is a criminal without evidence and extrajudicially killing them. How long before they start doing that to activists, claiming they were "terrorists" about to do something bad - or political opponents?


MAGAs don't care about slippery slopes unless a Democrat is president.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 07:36     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?



Or what kind of fishing are you doing in a submarine?


Just make more stuff up. 56 people murdered because they were fishing try to feed their family or refugees fleeing to a better life. Killing civilians
is a war crime. Doing it with no war is just murder.



Actual, serious question for you, that I would really, really appreciate your making a serious answer:


If these are simple fishermen “just trying to feed their families” , as you insist, how did these “simple fishermen” who are just trying to feed their families afford a 40-something foot speedboat with 2 or 4 outboard motors, costing around half a million dollars? Because boats are expensive. I know - I’ve owned them most of my life. And the ones I’ve seen getting blown up cost more than the average American home. How are these humble fishermen just trying to feed their families able to afford boats like this? I have no trouble feeding my family at all, and I can’t afford a $500,000 boat.



Can you please explain this?




I can’t, and they probably were drug boats, but that honestly doesn’t matter. You are completely missing and/or ignoring the point. The problem is that there was NO evidence presented, NO evidence of crime committed in the US, and NO trial or due process. The US is repeatedly going into International waters to blow up boats with only the assumption that they are coming to the US with drugs. If there is so much evidence to support it and proof that these boats were trafficking drugs and truly headed to the US, then why for god’s sake would they not just present it? Alternatively, wait for them to arrive and arrest them or execute them AFTER they enter the states with drugs. At least then, they would have evidence.

It’s pure idiocy!


It sets a disturbing precedent of this administration just claiming someone is a criminal without evidence and extrajudicially killing them. How long before they start doing that to activists, claiming they were "terrorists" about to do something bad - or political opponents?
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Post 11/02/2025 07:34     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.




Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.


Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.


In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.


💯 agree with you. Cold blooded murder and he doesn’t care.


Have you seen the videos? What kind of fish do you catch going 70 mph?


Obviously these guys are hunt game fish. Thier hungry families only eat sailfish. Delicate palettes.
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Post 11/02/2025 05:26     Subject: Re:US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs