Anonymous
02/19/2025 19:37
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:
That is heartbreaking. How can we stop this? How can RV be allowed to say he will traumatize Feds and actually do this? There must be a lawsuit there.
Vought is a ghoul and a modern-day Goebbels.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 19:18
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
The fraud you’re describing is perpetrated against those programs by people outside government. The lady who gets her dead grandma’s social security check or fakes disability isn’t a federal employee. It’s the same for doctors who overbill Medicare, people who took COVID PPP loans for business that weren’t real, etc. None of it occurs because someone “on the inside” was helping commit a crime.
So how is that problem solved by reducing the number of federal employees?
Of course the problem is worsened when you have fewer employees to find the issues through due diligence.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 19:15
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:patent examiner probationary are safe thank god. We have a backlog.
IRS gas a backlog too. That is irrelevant.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 19:05
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:
That is heartbreaking. How can we stop this? How can RV be allowed to say he will traumatize Feds and actually do this? There must be a lawsuit there.
That is so heartbreakingly awful.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 18:00
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
That is heartbreaking. How can we stop this? How can RV be allowed to say he will traumatize Feds and actually do this? There must be a lawsuit there.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 17:30
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:06
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
But with that argument in order to investigate fraud you need more employees and more regulations unless the whole goal is to get rid of those programs across the board.
The answer to every problem cannot be "I need more money, I need to hire more people".
A case can be made that regulations can be simplified and streamlined so we don't need as many people.
I agree and I've said 1M times tell me what program you want to cut and I will cut it, but they don't cut programs.
They fire people, write contracts for their friends and spend the same amount of $.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:50
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
But with that argument in order to investigate fraud you need more employees and more regulations unless the whole goal is to get rid of those programs across the board.
The answer to every problem cannot be "I need more money, I need to hire more people".
A case can be made that regulations can be simplified and streamlined so we don't need as many people.
I don’t think there is any case to be made that decreasing regulations will decrease fraud. Those are different aspects of the government entirely.
The answer can be both. Decrease regulation. Increase hiring to investigate fraud. Remember, fraud is predominantly perpetrated against the government, not by the government.
They probably think we aren't doing our jobs catching the fraud (see Musk's SS claim). I'm all about catching fraud, but it's very expensive to have NO fraud at all... at some point it costs more to find than the fraud itself.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:39
Subject: Re:Probationaries getting fired today
most of what DOGE is doing is getting control over government to suit their nefarious purposes, and the rest is creating a scapegoat so that when people are mad that things are broken they can blame "government" (yes, even when maga is in power, they will continue to blame government).
Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:10
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
But with that argument in order to investigate fraud you need more employees and more regulations unless the whole goal is to get rid of those programs across the board.
The answer to every problem cannot be "I need more money, I need to hire more people".
A case can be made that regulations can be simplified and streamlined so we don't need as many people.
I don’t think there is any case to be made that decreasing regulations will decrease fraud. Those are different aspects of the government entirely.
The answer can be both. Decrease regulation. Increase hiring to investigate fraud. Remember, fraud is predominantly perpetrated against the government, not by the government.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:08
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
But with that argument in order to investigate fraud you need more employees and more regulations unless the whole goal is to get rid of those programs across the board.
The answer to every problem cannot be "I need more money, I need to hire more people".
A case can be made that regulations can be simplified and streamlined so we don't need as many people.
If the deficit is your issue then I assume tax cuts are a no for you then? Since we can't throw more money or people?
Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:06
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
But with that argument in order to investigate fraud you need more employees and more regulations unless the whole goal is to get rid of those programs across the board.
The answer to every problem cannot be "I need more money, I need to hire more people".
A case can be made that regulations can be simplified and streamlined so we don't need as many people.
Of course! Duh 🙄 but that's not what they are doing. Are they simplifying the tax code? Are they simplifying how to get disability or Medicaid....nope. Because it SHOULDN'T be relatively easy otherwise you get waste. The bar must be high enough to warrant subsidization without being too high for those that need it.
And again it's less than 5% of the budget for salaries. Fed salaries aren't the problem.
And of course the fact that the fraud and waste is conducted by people who abuse the system -not employees- and by God the worst defense contractors who are living high on the hog while laughing about how fed employees are getting axed. Scientists, nuclear physicists, IRS agents....people who serve public good.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 13:43
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
The fraud you’re describing is perpetrated against those programs by people outside government. The lady who gets her dead grandma’s social security check or fakes disability isn’t a federal employee. It’s the same for doctors who overbill Medicare, people who took COVID PPP loans for business that weren’t real, etc. None of it occurs because someone “on the inside” was helping commit a crime.
So how is that problem solved by reducing the number of federal employees?
Anonymous
02/19/2025 13:40
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
patent examiner probationary are safe thank god. We have a backlog.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 13:37
Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal employment as a percentage of population and even in the total numbers has been drooping. All this talk about waste is basically a red herring. Federal jobs have always been a bit of a prop for vets, etc. while also doing necessary things for country to function.
We should not look for efficiency in federal government. We need resilience and effectiveness, private sector showed us that focus on efficiency opens us up to failures if disaster strikes like covid or something similar.
It is laughable and stupid that Dogetards are not even aware that this should be the focus and instead are bleating about "savings" and efficiency and waste. All while posting complete nonsense on their website. They freaking mistook 8M for 8B in "savings", literally showed how big their brains are!
It is not just Fed employment. It is about how much fraud there is in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability Insurance, Covid Funds, etc.
Your view conflicts with how the majority of the American people think and believe.
You can say, well they are stupid and ignorant. We wont get sympathy with that attitude. And we need that sympathy.
DP. They’ve been lied to. The fraud isn’t being committed by the people administering stuff, it’s their neighbors committing disability fraud and fraud entry taking PPP funds. I don’t understand what you’re suggesting? We tell them it isn’t a lie and they aren’t being manipulated by people who are taking billions in Fed contracts while decrying the gov? They’re firing people working on keeping us healthy and alive so that Musk can colonize Mars. People who aren’t able to acknowledge this very obvious fact are not going to be persuaded by anything logical.