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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

If you don't consider the possibility that your pregnancy might not got to term or have other complications, you are not living in reality. Something like 20-40% of pregnancies miscarry.

If you miscarry, you may need D&C or other help to complete the process safely.

The ONLY people saying “a D&C is an abortion” are abortion advocates and promoters. It’s a deliberate falsehood.

People who want a total, 100% ban on all abortion do not support a ban on D&C procedures because they understand the unborn baby is already dead, and needs to be removed.

Y’all should really stop with this whole “they’ll even ban D&C’s!” nonsense. Because it makes you look like liars. Which you are, btw. But it destroys your credibility, and im fine with that.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

The vast majority of abortions are elective. Both mom and baby are completely healthy.

Also, lots of democrats view their own babies as a parasite that is harmful and foreign.

They vehemently categorize a pregnancy that results from consensual sexual activity as slavery and a takeover of their bodies.

It’s their own child they are speaking about in this way. It is so creepy!

Seriously, get a birth control implant and stop making your own children your enemies and killing them.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

It’s creepy that you are so ignorant. Pregnancy is actually quite dangerous for women. Multiple things can go wrong and sadly often do. Why do you suppose there are so many superstitions about preparing for a baby before his or her healthy arrival?

Add in unacceptably high maternal mortality rates in the United States (more than double that of other high income countries) and yeah, there is a lot of scope for tragic outcomes.

+1. PP seems completely ignorant with regard to reproductive healthcare. A lot of pro-life women are infertile so they have no understanding of pregnancy or what is involved in raising children. That’s also why they claim to be pro-life but don’t support the things that are vitally important to raising happy and healthy children such as equal access to healthcare, clean water and air, less guns, mental health services, public schools, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The better question is how this poll squares with the rise in GOP registrations in Iowa and her own previous polling just a couple months ago that didn’t match this surge.

between a "couple of months ago" and now, an abortion ban was implemented.

Maga’s refusal to grasp this is like in a movie where the antagonist has murdered a beloved main character and has some sort of mental block about what they’ve done. Maga can keep pretending that their abortion bans aren’t a big deal, that all it means is that irresponsible 20 somethings won’t be able to go out with their fellow lady friend sluts and get abortions on a Friday night, but they’re only fooling themselves.

This. Women vote to improve and protect the community.

A lot of post menopausal women are pro life or happy with this decided at the state level. This random twitter lady doesn’t speak for all women.

I don’t know a single post-menopausal woman who would want the state deciding this if it was their daughter who was raped and pregnant— I know plenty of Catholics and I think some of them might even carry that baby but to pretend they know the answer for everyone? No

Almost all states have rape exceptions.

Jfc, as if that makes it a good thing.

It was dumb to argue as if it is an either or question. You can have state abortion limitations that account for the rare cases of rape induced pregnancies.
And most states do.

You realize that real women live under these draconian laws which you gloss over with your the language of “most” and “almost all”. It’s gross.

Those real women are voters in the states with those restrictions. Unlike with roe vs wade, they can take actions from campaigning to voting to enact the regulations that most match their values.

You seem to forget that pro life women exist.

What I don’t understand is it’s going to soon affect pregnant women, especially with high risk of unknown complications, in those states because doctors and specialists are leaving Florida and Texas and the South in record numbers. Nobody thinks of the unintended consequences.

They think about them. They have been told ad nauseum and they do not care. Women's lives are utterly unimportant to them (of course they somehow believe their wives and daughters will somehow be protected)

But these are women voting anti-choice, per the pp I responded to. They’re putting their own pregnancies at risk.

Yes, and they’ll run their hypocritical butts to Minnesota or Illinois when the crap hits the fan, if it’s something that can wait a day’s travel.

Or they’ll die for want of medical care and only then will their husband and mother realize what they’ve done, what they’ve supported.

That sounds implausible. How is someone going to get a doctor in another state when they're pregnant? Clearly a lot of women aren't thinking of the unintended consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

I know enough people who have had complications to know that there's a possibility that any pregnancy may need medical intervention and may not come to term.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

If you don't consider the possibility that your pregnancy might not got to term or have other complications, you are not living in reality. Something like 20-40% of pregnancies miscarry.

If you miscarry, you may need D&C or other help to complete the process safely.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

As a woman who's been fortunate to have only healthy and successful pregnancies, I always considered it important to have access to all potentially necessary medical care in case of a disaster. Just like if you were having surgery, you'd want your surgeon and anesthetist to be prepared and equipped to deal with serious complications, not just say "well most people are fine." So yes, but I'd never put it in terms of "the possibility of having an abortion," which is a great way to make it sound weird.

Not that PP but I have a sibling who found themselves in the situation of discovering their desired pregnancy had a major genetic issue coupled with a major anatomic issue at the anatomy scan. They were faced with the decision to carry to term and watch it die or have an abortion (which is decidedly lower risk for 2nd trimester vs induction if you pull any of numerous studies on this topic). They aborted. It was not an easy decision. They are now pro choice (still decidedly republican/libertarian) and said the Republican party shot itself in the foot the day RvW was overturned.

This was before I got pregnant with my own desired pregnancy in my late 30s. It did make me consider what I would do as I knew that by late 30s, my risk of complication for myself or for the baby were higher. It was very top of mind.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

As a woman who's been fortunate to have only healthy and successful pregnancies, I always considered it important to have access to all potentially necessary medical care in case of a disaster. Just like if you were having surgery, you'd want your surgeon and anesthetist to be prepared and equipped to deal with serious complications, not just say "well most people are fine." So yes, but I'd never put it in terms of "the possibility of having an abortion," which is a great way to make it sound weird.

Let’s get it done!

Team Ann Selzer, Team Kamala and Team LADIES

Harris is winning Iowa and the election. Her close has been amazing. Not one step out of place this whole campaign, and kudos to Joe for giving her the reigns.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP who wrote about my DIL. I would LOVE for this pregnancy of a wanted baby to come full term. But, I'm realistic.
And I want appropriate health care for my DIL if the pregnancy is unviable or if the baby would be born with a serious health condition that would not insure survival.
We want these measures in place because its humane for the pregnant woman. I cannot believe anyone would think otherwise.

Zealots would. They are crazy and unhinged ASF.

I'm the PP who wrote about my DIL. I would LOVE for this pregnancy of a wanted baby to come full term. But, I'm realistic.
And I want appropriate health care for my DIL if the pregnancy is unviable or if the baby would be born with a serious health condition that would not insure survival.
We want these measures in place because its humane for the pregnant woman. I cannot believe anyone would think otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:My DIL is 8 weeks pregnant in Iowa. It’s too late for her to make any decision to continue the pregnancy if anything goes wrong. Iowa has a 6 week abortion ban. You can bet most women here are livid.

Congrats on your new grandchild!

Uh, there's a saying, don't count your chickens. I hope her DIL's pregnancy goes well. But it's presumptuous to assume. And those potential tragic outcomes are a big reason why the pro-life movement is in trouble.

It’s quite creepy that democrats see every pregnancy, even their own grandchild, through the lens of a potential abortion. Like it’s the actual expected outcome.

It’s like the potential tragic outcomes are the focus of their being.

What an incredibly weird and insensitive take. Every pregnancy has the risk of life-threatening complications.

But do you consider the possibility of having an abortion with each pregnancy?

In a way- pregnancy can be very risky and sometimes measures needed to be taken to save the mother's life.