NCAP can’t really complain about bad publicity after they abused kids

Anonymous wrote:Can someone finally close this mess down? It is as if the patients have taken over the hospital. Nurse Ratched has no more pills to pass. None of this helps the swimmers, coaches, team, or community at large. It is vile. It is sad. It is pathetic.

Someone is worried about bad publicity!

Honestly, if my kid was considering joining a swim club, the information shared in this thread is something I would want to know.

Can someone finally close this mess down? It is as if the patients have taken over the hospital. Nurse Ratched has no more pills to pass. None of this helps the swimmers, coaches, team, or community at large. It is vile. It is sad. It is pathetic.

* other teammates parents

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming parents

Start blaming NCap they made this mess

NCAP made business choices. If you are unhappy, leave.

Exactly- it was a financial decision. Has never been about the betterment of the swimmers, other than a select few. Pure greed.

Isn’t hiring a well-respected college coach a huge upgrade in service to your swimmers? If anything, this feels like a cold, disloyal move to your coaches, but not greedy.

I’m honestly curious if you are an NCap family bc we know NCap to be incredibly greedy and yes, we are looking to leave

I'm not sure if you actually want a real response, but I'll engage anyways. We are at NCAP, but I'm not sure I know how you are defining a company to be "greedy" so I'm not sure if I can say if we've seen that.

I'm not sure I really care about being greedy, I don't have a personal relationship with NCAP, I have a business relationship with them. I pay them to provide a swim team for my child who is in love with the sport. I judge this relationship on:

1. Is my child happy and healthy?
2. Is my child improving?
3. Am I receiving coaching and other services that are in line with the market rate cost of a swim team in the DC area?
4. Is the location of the team, its practices, and the meets we attend impacting my family's life in a way that is untenable?

So far, NCAP is meeting the needs on those fronts. They are probably a tad more expensive than other competitors, but I understood that when we joined and my child is very happy. I'm not sure what ways their greed would be clear to me.

But I do not interact with NCAP leadership (nor do I care to) and I don't really seek more than a polite and friendly relationship with other teammates, so things that do not affect me are largely not a factor. Obviously, there are lines that NCAP could cross that would force me to end this business relationship, but personnel matters that I'm not privvy to and do not negatively impact my child are not in that category.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are these parents having extensive interactions with Spencer and Tom Ugast? My kid has been with the club 5 years and other than a few basic pleasantries with Tom at KLI I’ve never had a reason to speak with either of them.

You know exactly the kind of parents who are calling Tom and Spencer routinely. I've never had any reason to interact with them either, beyond normal pleasantries.

God forbid you call them to complain about a coach who is overtraining your child who needs surgery or PT then get screamed at on the phone and be told you’re being ungrateful and that you’re lucky your child is at NCap

Sure ok nothing to see here

Get your f-ing facts straight

Thank you for this totally normal response.

Anonymous wrote:Kids are reading this thread and watching grown adults tear apart coaches — whether they’ve been terminated or are still on the team. Setting everything else aside, please stop. Parents, Tom, Spencer… everyone. These athletes are paying attention, and regardless of where people stand, adults should be setting a better example.

Exactly. The heads of the company are posting nasty comments on a blog. What does that say about an organization? Just stop. Kids are watching.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are these parents having extensive interactions with Spencer and Tom Ugast? My kid has been with the club 5 years and other than a few basic pleasantries with Tom at KLI I’ve never had a reason to speak with either of them.

You know exactly the kind of parents who are calling Tom and Spencer routinely. I've never had any reason to interact with them either, beyond normal pleasantries.

God forbid you call them to complain about a coach who is overtraining your child who needs surgery or PT then get screamed at on the phone and be told you’re being ungrateful and that you’re lucky your child is at NCap

Sure ok nothing to see here

Get your f-ing facts straight

Been here for 14 years. Haven’t interacted with either one even once. My coaches do a great job.

Anonymous wrote:Who are these parents having extensive interactions with Spencer and Tom Ugast? My kid has been with the club 5 years and other than a few basic pleasantries with Tom at KLI I’ve never had a reason to speak with either of them.

You know exactly the kind of parents who are calling Tom and Spencer routinely. I've never had any reason to interact with them either, beyond normal pleasantries.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming parents

Start blaming NCap they made this mess

NCAP made business choices. If you are unhappy, leave.

Exactly- it was a financial decision. Has never been about the betterment of the swimmers, other than a select few. Pure greed.

Isn’t hiring a well-respected college coach a huge upgrade in service to your swimmers? If anything, this feels like a cold, disloyal move to your coaches, but not greedy.

I don’t think college coaching necessarily means they can coach age groupers. Different skill set.

This

This is all insane.
Sounds like wherever he ends up will be lucky to have him.

They got so many good resumes from this solicitation they had make room for new blood: https://swimswam.com/jobs/nations-capital-swim-club-full-and-part-time-jobs/

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming parents

Start blaming NCap they made this mess

NCAP made business choices. If you are unhappy, leave.

Exactly- it was a financial decision. Has never been about the betterment of the swimmers, other than a select few. Pure greed.

Isn’t hiring a well-respected college coach a huge upgrade in service to your swimmers? If anything, this feels like a cold, disloyal move to your coaches, but not greedy.

I don’t think college coaching necessarily means they can coach age groupers. Different skill set.

Who are these parents having extensive interactions with Spencer and Tom Ugast? My kid has been with the club 5 years and other than a few basic pleasantries with Tom at KLI I’ve never had a reason to speak with either of them.