Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 08:47     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Worst recruiting trip ever. They barely played. Union should be just as worried about 2010s who have only deposited at this point for FVU, they are looking at other options too


Will all this Union drama make incoming BRAVE families reconsider their other options too?!


I am sorry -- what does "they barely played" mean? Who barely played?


11s that went with the 10s to the playoffs
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 23:02     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Worst recruiting trip ever. They barely played. Union should be just as worried about 2010s who have only deposited at this point for FVU, they are looking at other options too


Will all this Union drama make incoming BRAVE families reconsider their other options too?!


I am sorry -- what does "they barely played" mean? Who barely played?
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 22:57     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.


And BSC 09 was only good because of the 2010s playing up and later the 2008 trapped players.
They haven't won more than a few games since the trapped help left.


Bethesda 09s were 1-13-2 in ECNL and a combined 0-6 in Jeff Cup and Premier Cup. It looks like last year they only had one win after the trapped 08s left.


Can anyone name one Bethesda team that hasn’t dropped off significantly in the older age groups? Bethesda older teams make Arlington older teams look great.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 22:37     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.


And BSC 09 was only good because of the 2010s playing up and later the 2008 trapped players.
They haven't won more than a few games since the trapped help left.


Bethesda 09s were 1-13-2 in ECNL and a combined 0-6 in Jeff Cup and Premier Cup. It looks like last year they only had one win after the trapped 08s left.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 21:41     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.


And BSC 09 was only good because of the 2010s playing up and later the 2008 trapped players.
They haven't won more than a few games since the trapped help left.


No trapped help at u13.


2011s used a 2012 at nationals.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 21:39     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

The stupid thing about this forum is that anyone can post and pretend to know what is going on and sound like an insider. VA Union 2010s are fine. Don’t believe everything (or anything!) you read on this thread. Posters have motives for whatever they are posting.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 20:14     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.


And BSC 09 was only good because of the 2010s playing up and later the 2008 trapped players.
They haven't won more than a few games since the trapped help left.


No trapped help at u13.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 19:34     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.


And BSC 09 was only good because of the 2010s playing up and later the 2008 trapped players.
They haven't won more than a few games since the trapped help left.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 19:27     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:Second migration is happening now, but where are they going? Are everyone’s rosters full


Every team always has room for strong players
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 19:07     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:U13 and U14 age mean nothing. U15 only good for a very very select few. You all need to grow up. Any of the teams spoken of can completely fall apart or completely turn it around before U16. Seen both happen. These girls aren’t fully grown until U16 and some even later.

I can guarantee you some of these U13/U14 girls are not going to be dominant when they are older. Happens every year here though. Parents of the U12/U13/U14 talking championships, college, etc and two years later the poor kid is 5’1”, skinny, and gets pushed off the ball by bigger defenders and somehow still tries to ball hog because little Sally still thinks she is a star. Some teams will have 3 or 4 of these players and the team goes from being one the best to well, pedestrian. This isn’t even bringing in the who ACL aspect.

Remember Arlington 08s? Went from 1st to almost last in one year. Bethesda 08s were at the bottom 2 years ago. Loudoun 08s used to be below Arlington and not that good. Brave 08s were winless 2 years ago I think. VDA 09s were bad two years ago. Could go into older ages but I don’t think many of you would know.

My best advice to you is to raise your kid as an unselfish team player. Selfish players who YOU think look good are not from a College Coach view point. Those are a dime a dozen. It’s the players that have high energy combined with high IQ that make everyone around them better, that is what your DD should be striving for.


2009 age group is a good example where Bethesda and Pipeline were amongst the best teams in the country a U12 and U13 but have fallen off a cliff.


I remember Pipeline 2009 being a kick and chase team with the GK feeding the biggest, fastest girl on the field so it's no surprise they started to get caught when tey moved to 11v11.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 18:56     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:Second migration is happening now, but where are they going? Are everyone’s rosters full


Yes. There’s always spot for a solid players.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 18:50     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Second migration is happening now, but where are they going? Are everyone’s rosters full
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 18:45     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. 2010 Union loses to Surf 0-10.


What a disgrace.


It just takes time for players to learn union’s tactics. Very complicated. Next level.



I don't think it matters against Surf. They have good odds of winning it all. VA Union a big longshot darkhorse. Good opportunity for the girls to play top California teams. Question everyone at Seattle are asking in this age is who is better, Surf or MVLA? VA Union kids get to come home saying they played against both these teams.



Subbing system is a circus. Why were 2011 players allowed to go an play and suck up playing time when they didn't start on their own team, and when the 2010 team already had a full roster? Club politics at it's worst.
Awful.


Lol! Go ahead and blame a 10-0 loss on 2011 players that barely saw the field. This has got to be a VA Union 2010 parent.


Sounds like a departing VA Union parent…sad


Fair play to VA McLean Union. Their 2 best 2011s start looking at other clubs so they invite them to Seattle to lose 10-0.


I was told they are not the best 2011s on the team. Politics as usual. Both players just came back from injury and were not in any playing shape to go compete with the 2010s. The third 2011 player who also went almost did not make the 2011 team.

I know a lot of the 2010 parents were not happy these these girls went with the team but I also know some of the 2011 parents were also not happy when they heard these three were going.

Not aware one of the two is leaving. Do you know where they are going?


I heard that they invited the two to keep them happy because they have options elsewhere. The third who almost didn’t make the team has a sister on the 2010s who is v good which is how she made the team and got invited to go to Seattle so again keeping families happy. Politics as usual.

Also heard both 2010 and other 2011 parents not happy with this.


Would be interested to hear where the one player is going.

FVU see what you have to look forward to? $hi+$h0w



On one of the threads it mentioned that a 2011 McLean player was moving to Arlington.


Pretty sure different player. Not the one that went to the playoffs.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 18:44     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Worst recruiting trip ever. They barely played. Union should be just as worried about 2010s who have only deposited at this point for FVU, they are looking at other options too


Will all this Union drama make incoming BRAVE families reconsider their other options too?!


Too late now but it sounds like more playing time is up for grabs with a few Union 2010s leaving the team.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 18:41     Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls

Anonymous wrote:Worst recruiting trip ever. They barely played. Union should be just as worried about 2010s who have only deposited at this point for FVU, they are looking at other options too


Will all this Union drama make incoming BRAVE families reconsider their other options too?!