Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:48
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Someone linked a funny but true explainer and every maga needs to read it. You are talking out of your ill informed butts.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:43
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama's CIA director, David Petraeus, (who was never president with declassification authority) stole classified documents and gave them to his mistress in exchange for sex for years
He was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor and got probation
All this matters.
Trump could have turned over these documents and he wouldn't have been charged with anything. About this.
All this matters.
A bunch of "Lock her up" types are now digging around for every example of lenient prosecution they can find, but Trump opined on such matters extensively during his presidency, and his positions have been included in the indictment. How much time he does is debatable, but there is no way he can avoid a felony conviction.
Again, those matter. Reduced to a misdemeanor for someone who literally stole classified documents and used them for prostitution purposes. Please justify.
He took a plea deal? Which Trump will never do?
Why did he even get such a sweet plea deal. What did his girl do with the documents? Probably sold them for nefarious purposes. If you want a definition of treason, that is it. But he worked for Obama so give him a plea
What Trump does and does not do is not relevant. What’s relevant is equal application of law. Here we have a man that literally sold classified documents for sex and gets off lightly, while Trump allegedly said “look at these secret documents” (Lordy there are tapes) and that’s the most horrid thing you’ve ever heard.
Hello. Can you tell us whether the charges are the same? Did Petraeus try to hide the documents after the government came calling?
Trump could have turned over everything when first asked and he would not have been charged. But he didn’t. If he is given a plea deal with these charges will he take them?
Personally I would have no problem with Petraeus being locked up. So we are agreed on that. You do terrible things that endanger national security, you serve time. No plea deals.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:38
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if RWNJ/MAGA notice the irony of Trump making laws tougher on mishandling classified information because of misinformed beliefs about HRC that are now being used for his illegal behaviors?
Or the irony in saying we over-classify stuff yet that was never their concern with HRC.
Yes they actually reclassified material not marked classified in that case.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:28
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if RWNJ/MAGA notice the irony of Trump making laws tougher on mishandling classified information because of misinformed beliefs about HRC that are now being used for his illegal behaviors?
Or the irony in saying we over-classify stuff yet that was never their concern with HRC.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:20
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone really think the Saudis truly care about professional golf? There is a reason LIV is a partnership with Trump. Follow the money.
This.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:19
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The indictment is online at NYtimes and it’s nuts. This mofo kept these secrets in a shower and on stage at Maralgo.
This photo is even worse than the shower and ballroom ones IMO.
For a germaphobe he has a messy house.
Jesus; what a dump.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:19
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
I wonder if RWNJ/MAGA notice the irony of Trump making laws tougher on mishandling classified information because of misinformed beliefs about HRC that are now being used for his illegal behaviors?
Anonymous
06/10/2023 11:04
Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL
If there was money to be made by sharing with foreign powers, I'm *positive* Trump shared with foreign powers, or at least was attempting to do so.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:29
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
The biggest irony of all here is that Trump's felonies are due to a bill that Trump himself signed into law as part of the whole "Lock Her Up" garbage.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-indicted-classified-documents-felony-1805561
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-indicted-classified-documents-felony-1805561
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:27
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
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It had a much worse impact on her career than his.
Not right at all, given his responsibilities .
But that is his these things usually go down.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama's CIA director, David Petraeus, (who was never president with declassification authority) stole classified documents and gave them to his mistress in exchange for sex for years
He was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor and got probation
All this matters.
Trump could have turned over these documents and he wouldn't have been charged with anything. About this.
All this matters.
A bunch of "Lock her up" types are now digging around for every example of lenient prosecution they can find, but Trump opined on such matters extensively during his presidency, and his positions have been included in the indictment. How much time he does is debatable, but there is no way he can avoid a felony conviction.
Again, those matter. Reduced to a misdemeanor for someone who literally stole classified documents and used them for prostitution purposes. Please justify.
He took a plea deal? Which Trump will never do?
Why did he even get such a sweet plea deal. What did his girl do with the documents? Probably sold them for nefarious purposes. If you want a definition of treason, that is it. But he worked for Obama so give him a plea
What Trump does and does not do is not relevant. What’s relevant is equal application of law. Here we have a man that literally sold classified documents for sex and gets off lightly, while Trump allegedly said “look at these secret documents” (Lordy there are tapes
Just Google it, it isn’t a mystery. Paula Broadwell was a military intelligence officer who was having an affair with David Petraeus while she was writing a book about him. He shared classified documents with her for the book. They got busted and negotiated plea bargains, but it ended their careers and their ability to get rich and famous off the ex-military gravy train of consulting and punditry.
It had a much worse impact on her career than his.
Not right at all, given his responsibilities .
But that is his these things usually go down.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:25
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The people here are too evil and crooked to even care.
Even you guys aren’t stupid enough to think the cases are similar.
They aren't. Biden should never have removed classified documents, given he never had to power to declassify - ever. So finding them in his garage is worse. Removing the photo from this thread is an admission of that.
I'd really encourage you to read the full indictment. The Biden "case" and this one aren't remotely similar. In fact, none of the Trump charges involve the initial removal of the classified info. They only charged what he did after the subpoena.
They never are. Again, because you seem to be too dumb to understand. Biden should NEVER have had classified documents ANYWHERE in his home. EVER.
But Trump should have? The documents were taken to his home after he was no longer president. That was okay?
He had the power to declassify. Biden never had that power as VP or as a Senator.
“This is secret information. Look, look at this.” —Donald J Trump, post-presidency
Please, can I hear that tape as well?
So arrest Biden too, right? Trump had the power to declassify and no, he didn’t need permission.
Could you translate that into rational language?
Biden, as then senator and then VP, had classified documents that he could not have declassified at any point in time. So he should be arrested right?
Please read up on what Trump did. He is not being charged for what Biden did. You sound incredibly uninformed.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:09
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
"doing this"
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:09
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Is anyone here the POTUS who is doing their l this with critical national security information?
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:04
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The people here are too evil and crooked to even care.
Even you guys aren’t stupid enough to think the cases are similar.
They aren't. Biden should never have removed classified documents, given he never had to power to declassify - ever. So finding them in his garage is worse. Removing the photo from this thread is an admission of that.
I'd really encourage you to read the full indictment. The Biden "case" and this one aren't remotely similar. In fact, none of the Trump charges involve the initial removal of the classified info. They only charged what he did after the subpoena.
They never are. Again, because you seem to be too dumb to understand. Biden should NEVER have had classified documents ANYWHERE in his home. EVER.
But Trump should have? The documents were taken to his home after he was no longer president. That was okay?
He had the power to declassify. Biden never had that power as VP or as a Senator.
“This is secret information. Look, look at this.” —Donald J Trump, post-presidency
Please, can I hear that tape as well?
So arrest Biden too, right? Trump had the power to declassify and no, he didn’t need permission.
He HAD the power, and didn't, yet kept the documents, hid the documents, copied the documents and lied about the documents. He even asked his attorneys to deal with the documents so his hands would be cleaner.
And kept them in boxes in a bathroom! With a sh***y shower curtain!
I can't get over that shower curtain. It's less of a crime than the espionage of course, but it shouldn't be completely overlooked. The bathroom is hideous over all, but if you're going to have a chandelier, I can't believe you'd back it up with such a sh***y shower curtain. A crime indeed.
Anonymous
06/10/2023 10:03
Subject: Lock him up indictment FL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could Trump request a bench trial and hope his judge buddy throws it out or gums up the works?
Ken White raised that idea on this week's Serious Trouble - he thinks that it's possible
The judge may just be that much of a corrupt diehard, but she must realize that this trial will be an American history event that will be discussed for the next 200 years (assuming the world doesn't implode). She will unnecessarily tie herself to that by doing so. The smart thing for her to do is get out of this altogether.
We’ve all seen how inexperienced and unintelligent she is, sadly. So we’ll perhaps need the appellate court to order her to recuse. Last time the Bush Republican appellate judges weren’t too pleased with her moronic ruling…