Anonymous wrote:Your original claim: "tout on their websites and in fundraising letters."

Are you so dense as to not see the difference between these news articles that contain no bragging, and the promotional/self-serving puffery that's in mailers/letters/emails from the school's advancement office?

NP.

“For the 12th consecutive year, U.S. News & World Report named Princeton the overall best university in the country. U.S. News also ranked Princeton third in undergraduate teaching (tied with Rice University), second in best value schools, fourth in best colleges for veterans, and first in senior capstone.”

If you don’t think that’s bragging, then you need to purchase a dictionary and familiarize yourself with the word “bragging.”

Anonymous wrote:Ugh, no thanks. If PP had made a more modest claim, I don't think anyone would've taken any issue. Trying to stretch the truth is a whole different matter though.

You two have a lot in common.

Ugh, no thanks. If PP had made a more modest claim, I don't think anyone would've taken any issue. Trying to stretch the truth is a whole different matter though.

Anonymous wrote:Your original claim: "tout on their websites and in fundraising letters."

Are you so dense as to not see the difference between these news articles that contain no bragging, and the promotional/self-serving puffery that's in mailers/letters/emails from the school's advancement office?

The irony of you calling anyone dense.

Posting the ranking information on their websites (when they could choose not to as Harvard does) is the definition of “touting.”

I believe we’re done. I only debate my equals. All others I teach. Now, take the lesson I’ve given you and have the day you deserve.

You two should get a room.

Your original claim: "tout on their websites and in fundraising letters."

Are you so dense as to not see the difference between these news articles that contain no bragging, and the promotional/self-serving puffery that's in mailers/letters/emails from the school's advancement office?

Since many students in the country will be limited to choosing among public colleges in their states, a list that includes the top 25 public colleges (pulls in the top students from half the states) and any private college ranked above those, plus the top 50 SLACs would be an impressive group of schools for any kid to attend. It allows you to acknowledge that strong students make choices based on size, location, niche programs, and price of attending and that there are many, many great colleges in this huge country.

Not that it matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I never said that every college advertises its USNRW ranking. There are very few statements that apply to 100% of cases 100% of the time.

My statement still stands. Many colleges brag about their ranking in internal and/or external communications.

Your exact words included "or maintain a top ranking" -- exactly which top ranked schools are doing it, if not HYPS?

You sound lazy, but I have a sliver of time to spare today. A quick (non-exhaustive) Google search yields the following results:

#1 (Princeton): https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-no-1-us-news-college-rankings-2022

#2 (MIT): https://news.mit.edu/2022/mit-named-no-2-university-us-news-2022-23-0912

#6 (University of Chicago): https://news.uchicago.edu/college-and-university-rankings

#7 (Johns Hopkins University-tie): https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/09/12/us-news-college-rankings-2022/

#7 (UPenn-tie): https://almanac.upenn.edu/articles/us-news-world-report-2023-rankings

#9 (CalTech): https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/caltech-graduate-programs-place-high-in-us-news-rankings

#10 (Duke): https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2022/09/duke-university-ranking-us-news-and-world-report-national-ranking-top10-northwestern-best-college-university-america

Now what?!?

I see that you have no comment when the receipts are posted.

Now wipe the spittle from your computer screen and accept the fact that *SOME* top colleges try to use these rankings to their advantage (even while pretending to hold their noses).

Your sleight of hand isn't fooling anyone. Where is the touting? All I'm seeing from these supposed "receipts" are vanilla news articles, not fundraising letters or promotional materials. Nice try though!

I hope that you’re not as dull as your response.

My statement:”Many colleges brag about their ranking in internal and/or external communications.” When colleges post their ranking on their websites they are bragging about their position on the list. These “vanilla news articles” are promotional materials and free PR gold.

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Anonymous wrote:I never said that every college advertises its USNRW ranking. There are very few statements that apply to 100% of cases 100% of the time.

My statement still stands. Many colleges brag about their ranking in internal and/or external communications.

Your exact words included "or maintain a top ranking" -- exactly which top ranked schools are doing it, if not HYPS?

You sound lazy, but I have a sliver of time to spare today. A quick (non-exhaustive) Google search yields the following results:

#1 (Princeton): https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-no-1-us-news-college-rankings-2022

#2 (MIT): https://news.mit.edu/2022/mit-named-no-2-university-us-news-2022-23-0912

#6 (University of Chicago): https://news.uchicago.edu/college-and-university-rankings

#7 (Johns Hopkins University-tie): https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/09/12/us-news-college-rankings-2022/

#7 (UPenn-tie): https://almanac.upenn.edu/articles/us-news-world-report-2023-rankings

#9 (CalTech): https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/caltech-graduate-programs-place-high-in-us-news-rankings

#10 (Duke): https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2022/09/duke-university-ranking-us-news-and-world-report-national-ranking-top10-northwestern-best-college-university-america

Now what?!?

I see that you have no comment when the receipts are posted.

Now wipe the spittle from your computer screen and accept the fact that *SOME* top colleges try to use these rankings to their advantage (even while pretending to hold their noses).

Your sleight of hand isn't fooling anyone. Where is the touting? All I'm seeing from these supposed "receipts" are vanilla news articles, not fundraising letters or promotional materials. Nice try though!