Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 14:14     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole anti woke movement is driven by marginally successful whites who no longer can get slots at Ivy League schools. Bitter demographic.


As opposed to people who wouldn’t get in at all on a merit-based system?


Keep clinging to your outmoded definition of “merit” like a salve for your hurt butt.


Lol, keep watering everything down to feel better.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 13:27     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Okay. Some basics here. It is true that some places have started to use the term “Latine” instead of Latinx, because Latinx is a word mostly invented and used by white, likely racist, progressives and mostly imposed on the Latino and Hispanic populations without their consent. Latinx was used somewhat self-referentially by politically progressive Mexican and Californian Latinos, but other than that, it was almost entirely a word defined and used by white, non-Spanish speaking progressives. It is a term openly and widely despised by many Latinos and Hispanics and is perceived as racist by many.

Some — not all by any means — people have moved to use the gender-neutral term “Latine” instead. The -e ending in Spanish is part of the language already, so doesn’t sound foreign like Latinx always did.

More broadly, there is some movement among progressive and young Spanish-speakers to replace gendered language in Spanish with the neutral -e. So, for instance, instead of “amigos” you would say “amigues” or “todes” instead of “todos.” I am skeptical that is being taught as the proper language form at elite private schools, but it’s not out of the question that it’s taught alongside the traditional Spanish. This language switch is is something anyone learning Spanish should at least be aware exists now, so they aren’t surprised.


Oh really? And are they also dropping all gendered definite articles? And are we altering all Romance languages or just Spanish?


I’m skeptical that you are truly asking a genuine question, but here you go: Gendered articles are being replaced as well. And there is no “we” — this is currently a pretty organic movement driven largely by urban youth, though feminists in these countries have been talking about this for years. And it is discussed in all Romance languages but probably Spanish is the furthest along.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 12:58     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:Okay. Some basics here. It is true that some places have started to use the term “Latine” instead of Latinx, because Latinx is a word mostly invented and used by white, likely racist, progressives and mostly imposed on the Latino and Hispanic populations without their consent. Latinx was used somewhat self-referentially by politically progressive Mexican and Californian Latinos, but other than that, it was almost entirely a word defined and used by white, non-Spanish speaking progressives. It is a term openly and widely despised by many Latinos and Hispanics and is perceived as racist by many.

Some — not all by any means — people have moved to use the gender-neutral term “Latine” instead. The -e ending in Spanish is part of the language already, so doesn’t sound foreign like Latinx always did.

More broadly, there is some movement among progressive and young Spanish-speakers to replace gendered language in Spanish with the neutral -e. So, for instance, instead of “amigos” you would say “amigues” or “todes” instead of “todos.” I am skeptical that is being taught as the proper language form at elite private schools, but it’s not out of the question that it’s taught alongside the traditional Spanish. This language switch is is something anyone learning Spanish should at least be aware exists now, so they aren’t surprised.


Oh really? And are they also dropping all gendered definite articles? And are we altering all Romance languages or just Spanish?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 12:25     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Okay. Some basics here. It is true that some places have started to use the term “Latine” instead of Latinx, because Latinx is a word mostly invented and used by white, likely racist, progressives and mostly imposed on the Latino and Hispanic populations without their consent. Latinx was used somewhat self-referentially by politically progressive Mexican and Californian Latinos, but other than that, it was almost entirely a word defined and used by white, non-Spanish speaking progressives. It is a term openly and widely despised by many Latinos and Hispanics and is perceived as racist by many.

Some — not all by any means — people have moved to use the gender-neutral term “Latine” instead. The -e ending in Spanish is part of the language already, so doesn’t sound foreign like Latinx always did.

More broadly, there is some movement among progressive and young Spanish-speakers to replace gendered language in Spanish with the neutral -e. So, for instance, instead of “amigos” you would say “amigues” or “todes” instead of “todos.” I am skeptical that is being taught as the proper language form at elite private schools, but it’s not out of the question that it’s taught alongside the traditional Spanish. This language switch is is something anyone learning Spanish should at least be aware exists now, so they aren’t surprised.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 12:15     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole anti woke movement is driven by marginally successful whites who no longer can get slots at Ivy League schools. Bitter demographic.



False, as evidenced in this very thread.

It's more like marginally successful whites are driving the woke thing because they want to appear cool.


Or that it's more important to use the right words and have policies without the right buzzwords, than it is to actually work to promote equity and justice.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 12:13     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:The whole anti woke movement is driven by marginally successful whites who no longer can get slots at Ivy League schools. Bitter demographic.



False, as evidenced in this very thread.

It's more like marginally successful whites are driving the woke thing because they want to appear cool.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 12:02     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s new terminology. If you care and are applying to the usual suspect leftist private schools in DC, just ask them/. It only affects that small school and the students who take Spanish grades 7-12.


Name and shame please. Why don’t just learn Esperanto if you want a made up language.


If true, it’s unbelievably arrogant and the height of paternalistic.


The height of the deranged anti-woke movement. “If true”. Getting all bent out of sorts over something “if true”


Snort.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:56     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s new terminology. If you care and are applying to the usual suspect leftist private schools in DC, just ask them/. It only affects that small school and the students who take Spanish grades 7-12.


Name and shame please. Why don’t just learn Esperanto if you want a made up language.


If true, it’s unbelievably arrogant and the height of paternalistic.


The height of the deranged anti-woke movement. “If true”. Getting all bent out of sorts over something “if true”
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:42     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s new terminology. If you care and are applying to the usual suspect leftist private schools in DC, just ask them/. It only affects that small school and the students who take Spanish grades 7-12.


Name and shame please. Why don’t just learn Esperanto if you want a made up language.


If true, it’s unbelievably arrogant and the height of paternalistic.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:38     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:There’s new terminology. If you care and are applying to the usual suspect leftist private schools in DC, just ask them/. It only affects that small school and the students who take Spanish grades 7-12.


Name and shame please. Why don’t just learn Esperanto if you want a made up language.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:37     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole anti woke movement is driven by marginally successful whites who no longer can get slots at Ivy League schools. Bitter demographic.


As opposed to people who wouldn’t get in at all on a merit-based system?


Keep clinging to your outmoded definition of “merit” like a salve for your hurt butt.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:36     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

There’s new terminology. If you care and are applying to the usual suspect leftist private schools in DC, just ask them/. It only affects that small school and the students who take Spanish grades 7-12.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 10:56     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent from a foreign background, this article resonated with me. I feel lost here and feel like I no longer fit in.

https://www.slowboring.com/p/who-is-included-by-inclusive-language



The author of the article cites a few Washington DC schools:
“Georgetown Day and Sidwell Friends here in D.C..”

It doesn’t seem like any of these schools hide the fact that they embrace diversity and equity , etc. I think it’s great that many schools are embracing these things. If a person doesn’t like a school’s ideologies they can obviously pick other schools..


I don't get why people insist on using that word. The majority of Hispanics hate it. My husband who is an immigrant from Latin America says it us another instance of gringos telling them what to do. He finds it offensive.

It’s beyond diversity and equity. Its a religion


And for Sidwell at least "equity and diversity" is about African Americans. Asian Americans. Latinx, Hispanic Americans are not in the picture for the administration, as much as they pay lip service to them.



Good point but don't use that Latinx thingy. Most Hispanics hate it and see it as an insult by detached anglo wokes.


This is actually true. It’s a gendered language and a gendered culture and the Latinx thing is stupid given that the entire language has male and female nouns.


FYI some progressive schools Spanish classes no longer teach it as Masculine or Feminine. ask your kid.


Wtf where is this so I can avoid


It’s in PP’s head, so you’re safe.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 09:44     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent from a foreign background, this article resonated with me. I feel lost here and feel like I no longer fit in.

https://www.slowboring.com/p/who-is-included-by-inclusive-language



The author of the article cites a few Washington DC schools:
“Georgetown Day and Sidwell Friends here in D.C..”

It doesn’t seem like any of these schools hide the fact that they embrace diversity and equity , etc. I think it’s great that many schools are embracing these things. If a person doesn’t like a school’s ideologies they can obviously pick other schools..


I don't get why people insist on using that word. The majority of Hispanics hate it. My husband who is an immigrant from Latin America says it us another instance of gringos telling them what to do. He finds it offensive.

It’s beyond diversity and equity. Its a religion


And for Sidwell at least "equity and diversity" is about African Americans. Asian Americans. Latinx, Hispanic Americans are not in the picture for the administration, as much as they pay lip service to them.



Good point but don't use that Latinx thingy. Most Hispanics hate it and see it as an insult by detached anglo wokes.


This is actually true. It’s a gendered language and a gendered culture and the Latinx thing is stupid given that the entire language has male and female nouns.


FYI some progressive schools Spanish classes no longer teach it as Masculine or Feminine. ask your kid.


Wtf where is this so I can avoid
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 09:43     Subject: Private Schools Wokeness Over the Top

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent from a foreign background, this article resonated with me. I feel lost here and feel like I no longer fit in.

https://www.slowboring.com/p/who-is-included-by-inclusive-language



The author of the article cites a few Washington DC schools:
“Georgetown Day and Sidwell Friends here in D.C..”

It doesn’t seem like any of these schools hide the fact that they embrace diversity and equity , etc. I think it’s great that many schools are embracing these things. If a person doesn’t like a school’s ideologies they can obviously pick other schools..


I don't get why people insist on using that word. The majority of Hispanics hate it. My husband who is an immigrant from Latin America says it us another instance of gringos telling them what to do. He finds it offensive.

It’s beyond diversity and equity. Its a religion


And for Sidwell at least "equity and diversity" is about African Americans. Asian Americans. Latinx, Hispanic Americans are not in the picture for the administration, as much as they pay lip service to them.



Good point but don't use that Latinx thingy. Most Hispanics hate it and see it as an insult by detached anglo wokes.


This is actually true. It’s a gendered language and a gendered culture and the Latinx thing is stupid given that the entire language has male and female nouns.


FYI some progressive schools Spanish classes no longer teach it as Masculine or Feminine. ask your kid.