Anonymous wrote:The more Colleen and Matt continue to talk about how much they love each other, the less I believe it. She looks so upset/uncomfortable the entire time like she's afraid to say the wrong thing because he'll blow up later. Colleen and Matt are such an odd faux couple.

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Anonymous wrote:Bartise is gaslighting scum. Go, Nancy!

Also, he is so unattractive and she looked beautiful.

I DESPISE Bartise, but if I'm just judging his looks I think he's very attractive.

He's ugly and that tux and no socks look... 🤡

I don’t find him ugly (although his personality is) but I definitely don’t find him attractive, either. To me he’s just meh looking. He is overconfident

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Anonymous wrote:Bartise is gaslighting scum. Go, Nancy!

Also, he is so unattractive and she looked beautiful.

I DESPISE Bartise, but if I'm just judging his looks I think he's very attractive.

He's ugly and that tux and no socks look... 🤡

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

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Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

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I honestly am baffled anyone can watch the cities scene and think Cole was the problem

I agree with you. And thankfully, so do 99% of people who watch this show (according to IG, twitter, reddit, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

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Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

DP. Ita.

I honestly am baffled anyone can watch the cities scene and think Cole was the problem

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

DP. Ita.

I honestly am baffled anyone can watch the cities scene and think Cole was the problem

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

DP. Ita.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

Anonymous wrote:The more Colleen and Matt continue to talk about how much they love each other, the less I believe it. She looks so upset/uncomfortable the entire time like she's afraid to say the wrong thing because he'll blow up later. Colleen and Matt are such an odd faux couple.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

Cole is the only person responsible for his own reckless and hurtful words. He has no boundaries and sounds and operates like a 15 year old child.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!

No, it's not "perfectly understandable." It displayed her inability to move on, to accept apologies, to get a solid grasp on reality. Cole made a mistake, but those are all Zanab's issues that she alone is responsible for.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say this about Zanab. Having watched the finale and the show. I think they communicated over each other. For sure. I do not think Cole is perfect.

My mom is a borderline personality disorder person. And watching Cole at that reunion I felt like...that was so relatable. That is what she does, she isn't even lying. She decides she is going to do something that is hurtful but that she wants to do. And she creates in her head an elaborate narrative, she entirely twists things that happened and she rallies everyone around her against the person who she's going to wrong. And truthfully she doesn't think she is lying. She can't accept wrongdoing in herself, she is also incredibly insecure, and her defense mechanism is deciding the world is against her and lashing out.

The stuff with the cuties, the stuff with the makeup that they did show with her entirely twisting something he said jokingly to be extremely critical. I believe him fully about the bachelor party. I also think she thinks she is telling the truth.

I think he is immature, but I think she is the villain in that story.

+1000

Zeneb definitely gives BPD vibes. Cole's not perfect, but she's detached from reality. She has already made her own reality in her own head.

Really, she made up Cole starting she was less attractive than some of her costars, and she made up the fact he told others he was emotionally attracted to her but physically attracted to Colleen? How do you think she felt watching that pool scene?

Nobody's saying that the pool scene was great. It wasn't. But it doesn't negate Zaneb's major, major personal issues and transgressions. She obviously has her own lying/manipulation/story-making problems.

Cole did a stupid thing for sure. Zenab did things that demonstrate serious mental health issues on her end.

Once he planted the seed that she didn't live up to her costars' looks, every comment he made about food or her body became interpreted through that lens. Perfectly understandable. I do think she's a nag who'd be hard to live with though. Of course is such a sloppy man child, he'd be even harder to live with!