Why aren't they doing that? Veteran teachers get and keep those jobs forever. Why? Because those students mostly come ready and eager to learn. Why would there be any vacancies in those jobs? The vacancies exist in high poverty schools because nobody wants to teach there.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

I assure you I am not a troll. It clearly states on our school’s website that the AAP teacher is a “teacher in training” and at open house the AART made a comment about sending extra time in the class. Now I know why.

It's not at all a surprise that they would give the teacher trainee the most well behaved, easy to teach kids in this school. More schools should do this instead of sticking the poor trainees with classrooms they are unable to manage! I don't know why more schools didn't do this!

My student teaching training was in a challenging school on purpose. They placed all of us in those schools because most of us were offered jobs in those types of schools. Those are the ones with the vacancies (this was around 2001). If I had an easy student teaching gig, I wouldn’t probably quit my first job at a challenging school because I wasn’t prepared. As long as the district keeps those new teachers at easy schools, it could work out.

Yes, this is what I'm saying - if they put the trainees in an AAP classroom where (a) the curriculum is already established and there is TONS of instructional support and (b) the students are generally better behaved and eager to learn, none of them would quit mid-year like the two residents at our school last year did. They couldn't handle the disruptive kids, but those kids for the most part don't exist (or don't exist in great volume) in AAP or LLIV classrooms. It's really the perfect solution for both teachers and students (again, the curriculum is WELL established, they're not like Gen Ed teachers who are making things up as they go).

GENIUS - why aren't they doing this???? Someone from Gatehouse please read this -- surefire way to get good teachers to stay!!

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

I assure you I am not a troll. It clearly states on our school’s website that the AAP teacher is a “teacher in training” and at open house the AART made a comment about sending extra time in the class. Now I know why.

It's not at all a surprise that they would give the teacher trainee the most well behaved, easy to teach kids in this school. More schools should do this instead of sticking the poor trainees with classrooms they are unable to manage! I don't know why more schools didn't do this!

My student teaching training was in a challenging school on purpose. They placed all of us in those schools because most of us were offered jobs in those types of schools. Those are the ones with the vacancies (this was around 2001). If I had an easy student teaching gig, I wouldn’t probably quit my first job at a challenging school because I wasn’t prepared. As long as the district keeps those new teachers at easy schools, it could work out.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

I don't believe this.

I believe it. FCPS sucks shit and AAP is complete bullshit. The only real way to gain a good education in Vaginia is private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

I assure you I am not a troll. It clearly states on our school’s website that the AAP teacher is a “teacher in training” and at open house the AART made a comment about sending extra time in the class. Now I know why.

It's not at all a surprise that they would give the teacher trainee the most well behaved, easy to teach kids in this school. More schools should do this instead of sticking the poor trainees with classrooms they are unable to manage! I don't know why more schools didn't do this!

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

Yep. So much for FCPS braying about "equity." Same issue with AAP kids getting to choose between their base school and the center. Gen Ed kids get no such choice. AAP in general is a cesspool of inequity - they should start with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

I assure you I am not a troll. It clearly states on our school’s website that the AAP teacher is a “teacher in training” and at open house the AART made a comment about sending extra time in the class. Now I know why.

Teaching kids in AAP takes less skilled then Gen Ed.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

I assure you I am not a troll. It clearly states on our school’s website that the AAP teacher is a “teacher in training” and at open house the AART made a comment about sending extra time in the class. Now I know why.

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Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.

OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.

I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.

Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.

Different school district, but the PhD in physics and the dentist where I was, were not successful middle school science teachers.

Some career switchers will not be good teachers. But getting teacher trainees who don't have subject knowledge or Praxis and VCLA requirements will also make it hard for trainees to succeed.

It takes newbees time to learn classroom mangament even they knwo the content

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Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.

OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.

I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.

Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.

Different school district, but the PhD in physics and the dentist where I was, were not successful middle school science teachers.

Some career switchers will not be good teachers. But getting teacher trainees who don't have subject knowledge or Praxis and VCLA requirements will also make it hard for trainees to succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.

OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.

I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.

Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.

Different school district, but the PhD in physics and the dentist where I was, were not successful middle school science teachers.

Some career switchers will not be good teachers. But getting teacher trainees who don't have subject knowledge or Praxis and VCLA requirements will also make it hard for trainees to succeed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im a current HS teacher. I know the challenges, and am frankly offended “they” feel any warm body can do my job.

OTOH, when I was in HS in the early 00’s, in FCPS, we had a new history teacher. He was a career switcher and had previously been a lawyer. Didn’t make it to winter break.

I feel bad for the kids for (a) not being taught by someone who understands the pedagogy and (b) the transition and disruption this will cause.

Funny you mentioned the lawyer didn’t last. My experience had been that “retreads” particularly from more professional jobs are some of the best teachers.

Different school district, but the PhD in physics and the dentist where I was, were not successful middle school science teachers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

I don't believe this.

Me either but then again SPED had lots of teacher trainees so who knows!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time for gen ed kids to enjoy what sped kids have gotten for years now-completely unqualified "teachers"

But don't worry AAP parents, your kids would NEVER get one of these people. We'll even transfer over an experienced teacher from a Gen Ed class and give THEM a crappy long-term sub than make your special snowflakes suffer!!

(true story)

I believe it!!

Not true. My child’s 5th grade AAP teacher is a “teacher in training”.

No....this is a troll.

Title 1 schools are supposed to have certified teachers ONLY and they are allowed trainees. Desperate times.