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Anonymous wrote:25? How do you get high access at such a young age?

Question is… who is she now working for?

Read the whole thread. She doesn’t have a full time job now.

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Anonymous wrote:So vornado is probably denying he told her the story but she claims Engel was there when he told her. Wonder if Engel is getting pressure to corroborate Orbato’s denial. That would be an interesting wrinkle if he’s getting threats.


Ans yes, I’m leaving those typos because autocorrect is having fun with that name and it amuses me.

Both of whom are active agents right now?

Ornato was Deputy White House Chief of Staff at the time. He’s currently in a training role and not actively protecting anyone right now.

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Anonymous wrote:So vornado is probably denying he told her the story but she claims Engel was there when he told her. Wonder if Engel is getting pressure to corroborate Orbato’s denial. That would be an interesting wrinkle if he’s getting threats.


Ans yes, I’m leaving those typos because autocorrect is having fun with that name and it amuses me.

Ornato is still employed with the Secret Service, which is an interesting wrinkle. I don't know if Engel is.

I also find it fascinating that this is the one piece of her testimony that's being focused on.

I think "the source close to the Secret Service" is one person and that the media is playing this for ratings and because they can't stand to not have their own source. I hate to be THAT cynical but that's my take.

Well Orbato also is the guy who told Meadows and Hutchison that the president knew the mob was armed…

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Anonymous wrote:And, the plot thickens......

So that guy is going to be on Fox tomorrow saying she was lying and then go before the committee and swear to it? If he comes out publicly, the committee will have to swear him and hear him.

But if he doesn’t…. If it’s just “I know a guy who knows a guy who said she was lying…” then I’m believing the witness today.

If the committee won't allow him to testify, the writing is on the wall. Ten bucks they say something like "he testified or will testify in private". No WAY they are allowing the American people to hear it.

The only person who can claim she is lying is Tony Ornato. The person who told her the story. I'd love for them to ask him some questions and see his communications.

The American people can hear it now. All he has to do is go on Fox News and say she’s lying. There is nothing illegal or keeping him from going public.

Does Fox News swear people in?

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Anonymous wrote:He called on an armed mob that he knew was calling for the death of the VP to march to the Capitol l, and stop the VP from certifying the election. Uhm. Not looking good.

But his supporters are intensely interested in whether he was riding around in a Ford or a Chevy.

“The whole story rests on whether or not it was a V8 or a straight eight! This is the crux of the story!!”

The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make those marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!

You are winning this thread.

Anonymous wrote:So vornado is probably denying he told her the story but she claims Engel was there when he told her. Wonder if Engel is getting pressure to corroborate Orbato’s denial. That would be an interesting wrinkle if he’s getting threats.


Ans yes, I’m leaving those typos because autocorrect is having fun with that name and it amuses me.

Ornato is still employed with the Secret Service, which is an interesting wrinkle. I don't know if Engel is.

I also find it fascinating that this is the one piece of her testimony that's being focused on.

I think "the source close to the Secret Service" is one person and that the media is playing this for ratings and because they can't stand to not have their own source. I hate to be THAT cynical but that's my take.

Anonymous wrote:He thought the police and military would take his side because he only talked to sycophants who would tell him the truth.

+1 He emptied the Pentagon leadership of anybody but toadies throughout November and December.

Anonymous wrote:25? How do you get high access at such a young age?

Question is… who is she now working for?

Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Trump lied about the number of people at his inauguration. His credibility is shot.

Strangely hilarious that he was so concerned about the Ellipse appearing full in the crowd shots that he was ready to let in armed crazy people.

Tony the tomato needs to testify or can it.

Anyway. The president invited an armed mob the storm the Capitol and stop the election. It was an attempted coup.

Anonymous wrote:And what are trumpkins’ talking points on the mafia-style threats reminding people meeting with the committee to “remain loyal”?

“Oh that’s just how he is, he’s not presidential, he says what’s on his mind. That’s why we love him!!!”

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No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.

Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.

No not weird. It's a type of fallacy that Trumpers will use to discredit the whole testimony.

Apparently, the testimony is unraveling because the people she supposedly got the information from are saying it's not true.

Under oath?

Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:And, the plot thickens......

So that guy is going to be on Fox tomorrow saying she was lying and then go before the committee and swear to it? If he comes out publicly, the committee will have to swear him and hear him.

But if he doesn’t…. If it’s just “I know a guy who knows a guy who said she was lying…” then I’m believing the witness today.

If the committee won't allow him to testify, the writing is on the wall. Ten bucks they say something like "he testified or will testify in private". No WAY they are allowing the American people to hear it.

The only person who can claim she is lying is Tony Ornato. The person who told her the story. I'd love for them to ask him some questions and see his communications.

Ornato seems to have a history:

"Trump installed Tony Ornato --- his former lead US Secret Service agent
--- as deputy chief of staff for operations in part bc FLOTUS --- then chief
preferred him over Max Miller. But the move unnerved West Wing aides who
knew the Secret Service was supposed to be non-political."
<https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1518329760547540995>
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"[S]enior Secret Service official Anthony Ornato was detailed to White House as
a Trump political adviser. He's now back at USSS."
<https://twitter.com/jkuhnhenn/status/1518321475173994498>

Anonymous wrote:So vornado is probably denying he told her the story but she claims Engel was there when he told her. Wonder if Engel is getting pressure to corroborate Orbato’s denial. That would be an interesting wrinkle if he’s getting threats.


Ans yes, I’m leaving those typos because autocorrect is having fun with that name and it amuses me.

Both of whom are active agents right now?

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Anonymous wrote:He called on an armed mob that he knew was calling for the death of the VP to march to the Capitol l, and stop the VP from certifying the election. Uhm. Not looking good.

But his supporters are intensely interested in whether he was riding around in a Ford or a Chevy.

“The whole story rests on whether or not it was a V8 or a straight eight! This is the crux of the story!!”

The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make those marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!

Omfg 😂 perfection.

I love you.