Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:45     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.


Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.


They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.


YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you



I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.


Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?


No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

This is the beginning, next they will come for many other rights.

Dems need to expand the court asap.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.


Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.


They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.


YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you



I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.


Well there if you are raped, have medical complications or incest you have no options. So too bad.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:As someone who grew up outside the United States, I think there is a reality that many Americans do not want to admit. This country is really a collection of many different countries with different cultures. I lived in both very conservative and liberal states and the differences in terms of cultural views are quite big. While I want to be optimistic about this country remaining a strong federal republic, the cultural issues that affect this country today really seem to have binary (for/against) positions. Americans always point to other countries and their divisions and in the process praised the way they have managed to always compromise. It is true up to now this has been the case. Being a federal republic is not easy and I think we are seeing the challenges....


Isn't this the USA's selling point? That we are one big melting pot? I don't believe this has anything to do with cultural differences. It has everything to do with conservative white (men) losing ground on being the majority race in this country, and it scares the crap out of them. It's like being a minority in this country is bad or something? (/s).

Pro-life should be rephrased as pro-control, because that's what this is all about. Enacting laws to make sure that POCs and lower SES will stay inferior in this country. They are using the bible to justify their actions, while ignoring the fact that we have freedom of religion in this country.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.


cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.

There are people who will slut shame that woman and make money out of the baby using shady adoption practices
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.


We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!

I’m not abandoning my country to the fascists. They are the minority.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.


cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.


I posted after that I think there should be carveouts for rape, incest and medical problems.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:As someone who grew up outside the United States, I think there is a reality that many Americans do not want to admit. This country is really a collection of many different countries with different cultures. I lived in both very conservative and liberal states and the differences in terms of cultural views are quite big. While I want to be optimistic about this country remaining a strong federal republic, the cultural issues that affect this country today really seem to have binary (for/against) positions. Americans always point to other countries and their divisions and in the process praised the way they have managed to always compromise. It is true up to now this has been the case. Being a federal republic is not easy and I think we are seeing the challenges....


I can only assume that it is because you "grew up outside the United States" that you are so laughably unfamiliar with this country's history.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:44     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.


Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.


They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.


YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you



I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.


Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.


Except for brown kids in their classrooms. The GOP don't think they matter all that much.

Nor anyone who has to breathe polluted air and has to live on a burning planet. That kind of death is better because businesses make money and it calls Jesus back! Win-win!
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.

Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.


But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.


There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.

In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.


Except it didn't. It only became a political cause several years later. Initially, RvW was a non-issue. But some parts of the political right were looking for a cause, and they picked this.

And we all believed it, too. For a long time.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.


We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.


So you support affordable and accessible abortions up to 12 weeks?


I do.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

Will women be forced to give birth even if the baby is not healthy? Even if baby is not viable?
What about multiple pregnancy where a reduction could save the other fetus
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2022 12:43     Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.


cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.