Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing all the mental gymnastics on display here from the Wilson parents explaining away the Wilson college admissions.

And I'm still not clear on what the snarky crowd thinks is wrong with Wilson admissions that should have all Wilson parents freaking out. A year without any top Ivies isn't a shock for a public high school that loses most of its best students to the nearby public application high school. Is it your position that there are exceptional students at Wilson who aren't getting in to HYPS-MIT and that it's the school's fault? Or that there are very good students ending up at not-very-good schools because they're getting bad advice at Wilson?

It’s amazing all the mental gymnastics on display here from the Wilson parents explaining away the Wilson college admissions.

But as was mentioned earlier, I wonder how many kids apply to Yale from Wilson? You can't get in if you don't apply, and if you don't have a "hook" but have the stats, admission is basically a lottery. We live in Upper NW and even though some of us parents went to HYPS etc, I don't get the sense that a lot of our kids are applying. According to Bethesda Magazine, 31 kids from Whitman and 23 from BCC applied to Yale in the 2019-20 school year (4 from Whitman and 1 from BCC got in). I don't get the sense that nearly as many kids from Wilson are even trying to get in to HYP.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

Uh some people living in a 1M+ house with multiple kids can’t always afford to send their kid to an Ivy. I’m not sure why people are so competitive about where their kids go to college. In the end, it’s what you do with the education that matters. So pathetic.

So they're getting in but turning them down? But the Walls and Whitman kids have the money? right.

I don’t think they’re applying. Or if they are it’s a long shot on attending. I think there are a lot of families that aren’t financially stable enough for multiple kids in Ivy Leagues. You know all the DCUM folks that think $250k is middle class.

This just isn't true. I live in upper NW and know a ton of kids who are Wilson grads. their parents are paying $75k-80k for Vermont or Wisconsin or Oberlin or Bucknell. They would find the money for Yale.

I feel like something that doesn't get mentioned often enough in Wilson college admissions threads is the fact that many of the best students in the Wilson boundary probably end up at Walls. Not all of them, sure, but enough to affect the yearly average number of HYPS admissions. (And of course Walls's admissions are going to be better across the board. It's a selective high school!)

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

Uh some people living in a 1M+ house with multiple kids can’t always afford to send their kid to an Ivy. I’m not sure why people are so competitive about where their kids go to college. In the end, it’s what you do with the education that matters. So pathetic.

So they're getting in but turning them down? But the Walls and Whitman kids have the money? right.

I don’t think they’re applying. Or if they are it’s a long shot on attending. I think there are a lot of families that aren’t financially stable enough for multiple kids in Ivy Leagues. You know all the DCUM folks that think $250k is middle class.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

Uh some people living in a 1M+ house with multiple kids can’t always afford to send their kid to an Ivy. I’m not sure why people are so competitive about where their kids go to college. In the end, it’s what you do with the education that matters. So pathetic.

So they're getting in but turning them down? But the Walls and Whitman kids have the money? right.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

Agree. Whitman's results from last year are much better than Wilson's if you're coming UMC to UMC. Wilson's were just not good at all. I'm not sure what happened. Walls' were much better too.

Uh some people living in a 1M+ house with multiple kids can’t always afford to send their kid to an Ivy. I’m not sure why people are so competitive about where their kids go to college. In the end, it’s what you do with the education that matters. So pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:And Temple is public. I would be worried about the counseling office.

Grand Valley State is a public college, too. It's in Michigan. And College of San Mateo is a community college in California.

This was almost certainly put together by the lowest-paid person in the front office, not the counselors.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

PP Whitman alum. I should note I did go to an Ivy. Don’t care in the least if my kids do. And when I was at Whitman I was one of 6 from my class at that Ivy. In the past decade, only about one kid per Whitman goes there each year. The world has changed.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. I know that the world has changed and the college admissions game is much different than when I went to school. But still, nothing you’re saying has any bearing on the fact that Whitman’s college placement is far superior to Wilson’s, even when comparing UMC v. UMC students at both schools.

I’d agree that’s true for the top 10% of admissions. About 30 kids per Whitman year go to the most elite schools vs maybe 5-10 at Wilson. But then similar it’s pretty the rest. So it depends how you’re looking at it. I reject the notion of “placement” by schools - that’s a sales pitch term privates use. It’s kids gaining admissions. Kids are applying and getting admitted. About 40-50% of kids at the MoCo schools and Wilson look functionally identical to college admissions offices. Whitman and most MoCo “counseling” is basically one meeting with a counselor who says “apply to one or two reaches one or two safeties and others you feel are a good fit for you… and don’t forget to turn it in on time.” It’s the parents and kids and families and some who want to spend money on college counselors who do the rest. Lots of kids who seem similar at Whitman and Wilson who ate generally “honors” kids aren’t getting into UMD these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

PP Whitman alum. I should note I did go to an Ivy. Don’t care in the least if my kids do. And when I was at Whitman I was one of 6 from my class at that Ivy. In the past decade, only about one kid per Whitman goes there each year. The world has changed.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. I know that the world has changed and the college admissions game is much different than when I went to school. But still, nothing you’re saying has any bearing on the fact that Whitman’s college placement is far superior to Wilson’s, even when comparing UMC v. UMC students at both schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman grad whose kids are at Wilson. The fact that Wilson is more diverse in all ways and not 95%+ go to 5 year colleges are the main differences. The UMC parent pool and the kids are virtually interchangeable.
Whitman college counselors are also a joke. That’s only a private school thing. Informed and driven parents guide the process with their kids too.

The numbers in the college admissions don’t really support what you’re saying.

PP Whitman alum. I should note I did go to an Ivy. Don’t care in the least if my kids do. And when I was at Whitman I was one of 6 from my class at that Ivy. In the past decade, only about one kid per Whitman goes there each year. The world has changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few go yo Ivies.

... from anywhere other than a few boarding schools.

Did you look at the MoCo data? 1-3/year/school to HYPS etc. is a lot different than 0 per year.

Anonymous wrote:Very few go yo Ivies.

... from anywhere other than a few boarding schools.

Anonymous wrote:First. World. Problems.

Accept your lot, and don't complain...