Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 19:44     Subject: Re:Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:If they had slapped a photo of a basket of strawberries on the album cover, the album still would have been a hit.

The cover of the album has nothing to do with the success of the music.

He (and his family) have used this photo as a way of making themselves more than they are -- he was a baby model, no different than the Gerber baby.

Honestly, I've seen that cover a million times and never thought or give consideration to the fact there's a penis on it. It's a BABY.

No one would even know it's him except for the fact he's used it as his calling card all of his life -- even to the point of tattooing the name of the album on his chest.

Maybe he just needs to grow up and get a life.


And those strawberries would be outraged!
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 19:36     Subject: Re:Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:His lawyers are using the child pornography angle by stating in the lawsuit that this image makes him look like a sex worker, since it shows him(as a 4 month old infant) reaching for money. That’s a stretch. The message behind this album cover was all about the evils of capitalism. Kurt Cobain said that several times when he was interviewed. And one more thing. It is a well established legal doctrine that most photographs of babies unclothed are not to be considered sexualised. I think it applies in this context.


What kind of idiot doesn't get the "chase capitalism starting in infancy" image expressed by the cover? Who the hell thinks it's about a child sex worker?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 18:57     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:There was a contract and his dad got paid. His dad obviously consented. End of story on that front.

Now if you want to argue that ethically they should have covered his genitals…sure, that’s a different story.


This. I actually think it was unethical and kind of can't believe it happened. In this Entertainment Weekly story they talk about throwing the babies into the water! WTH.

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1430570702411796480
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 18:23     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Sue his parents.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 18:22     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, multiple things can be true

It does seem like a money grab, sure, welcome to American civil courts lol, BUT the dude does have a point, and maybe a viable case.
And yes, the cover art image has always been creepy and weird and wrong; the image will continue to age poorly and be judged harshly by history, AND the music is great and it’s an extraordinary album regardless if they’d chosen different art.


He only has a case if his parents did not sign a disclaimer and take payment. If they did, he was a minor, and that's how it works. The parents made a decision for him. He's mad at the wrong people


So, he can be mad at both Nirvana and his parents for their collective bad judgement actually.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 17:38     Subject: Re:Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
His lawyers are using the child pornography angle by stating in the lawsuit that this image makes him look like a sex worker, since it shows him(as a 4 month old infant) reaching for money. That’s a stretch. The message behind this album cover was all about the evils of capitalism. Kurt Cobain said that several times when he was interviewed. And one more thing. It is a well established legal doctrine that most photographs of babies unclothed are not to be considered sexualised. I think it applies in this context.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 17:02     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
I was in high school when the album came out so please excuse me if my memory is hazy...

Wasn't there a black rectangular box covering his genitals when the CD was sold in stores? For some reason, I think I remember it that way? I don't remember seeing his genitals on the cover when I was a teen. Or could I just have totally forgotten?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 16:33     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
I mean, would you want your baby’s genitals dangling from millions of peoples walls ? Or screenshotted for pervs across the world to jerk off too ?

Blame the parents of the kid. And the band. Give the kid $100 million . Any child’s genitals should never be out for full display

What a sick messed up world we live in.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 16:30     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:I was going to say 2.5 million wasn't very much



Not for a crazy person asking for something they no right to, no.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 16:13     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
I was going to say 2.5 million wasn't very much

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 15:21     Subject: Re:Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
they'll pay him something just to make him go away - that's it
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 15:19     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
I'd sue too if I was on the cover of such a terrible album.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 14:25     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
He didn't seem to care a few years ago:

https://nypost.com/2016/09/23/nirvana-baby-recreates-iconic-album-cover-25-years-later/
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 14:25     Subject: Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:So, multiple things can be true

It does seem like a money grab, sure, welcome to American civil courts lol, BUT the dude does have a point, and maybe a viable case.
And yes, the cover art image has always been creepy and weird and wrong; the image will continue to age poorly and be judged harshly by history, AND the music is great and it’s an extraordinary album regardless if they’d chosen different art.


He only has a case if his parents did not sign a disclaimer and take payment. If they did, he was a minor, and that's how it works. The parents made a decision for him. He's mad at the wrong people
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2021 14:23     Subject: Re:Nirvana 'Nevermind' album baby sues for being exploited as a minor
Anonymous wrote:If they had slapped a photo of a basket of strawberries on the album cover, the album still would have been a hit.

The cover of the album has nothing to do with the success of the music.

He (and his family) have used this photo as a way of making themselves more than they are -- he was a baby model, no different than the Gerber baby.

Honestly, I've seen that cover a million times and never thought or give consideration to the fact there's a penis on it. It's a BABY.

No one would even know it's him except for the fact he's used it as his calling card all of his life -- even to the point of tattooing the name of the album on his chest.

Maybe he just needs to grow up and get a life.



This. The man has CHOSEN to draw attention to it being him on the cover, going to the media for years, doing replications of it as an adult, and of course the giant tattoo - and clearly trying to profit off of it himself years later.

I've never been a fan of the album cover, but the only people that exploited him were his parents.

I think it would be a kind gesture to give him 100k as a gift, maybe, since the album has been so popular (because of the music, not the cover). But he isn't owed it by any means.