Anonymous
08/23/2021 00:42
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
I mean no idea if it's starting or not but did Target drive up on Friday and in recent months it had taken 2 min max. It took 5-7 min to even get into a drive up parking spot and another 5-10 min for them to bring the goods out. So clearly some % of people in the DMV that was going into stores in recent weeks/months is now going back to some amount of curb side.
Seems like a smart decision due to Delta and will reduce the number of in-store shoppers and thus odds of transmission. Having to wait a little longer for the convenience of curb side pick up isn't a huge deal and it's great we have all these options that allow people to avoid being inside public spaces for long periods of time.
I 100% agree, I wasn't saying it in criticism. I have been mostly doing curbside the whole time and then once things got good, I'd go in every every month or so at an off time and do a bigger shopping in person. Now back to curbside at a place like Target where 100% of the goods I'm getting are household goods/non perishables so why go inside and expose myself to other people esp given that still you'll find 20-30% unmasked in any store. Just saying that yeah there are some small behavior changes happening given the wait times, which is good.
Anonymous
08/23/2021 00:25
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If “it’s happening” means “people in the DMV are freaking about covid” - you are correct. You can also see it in the increasingly hysterical calls to close DCPS again.
IDK if people are freaking out or not - maybe - but yeah I do see some slight changes in behavior. It is a touch harder to get instacart spots, it's taking longer to get curbside at big box stores etc. So at least some % of people in the DMV are now declining to go into stores. I don't think it's huge percentages, people are out and about but SOMEONE is deciding to stay home, stay out of indoor settings etc.
Seems smart -- people are making intelligent choices based on risks of infection. Maybe people learned from experiences last year and are getting better at calibrating their behavior to real risk. I would expect some inconveniences but I don't think an increase in curbside pickup or people avoiding indoor interactions is cause for alarm or is anywhere comparable to where we were in May of 2020, for instance.
A lot of people seem primed for disaster and I don't feel that's what's happening. I do think we need to gear up for a rocky fall. I am hoping people can remain focused on what is most important, which to me is making sure my kid can be as safe as possible at in person school (which is an non-negotiable for us due to work -- it's either in-person public or some kind of in-person group childcare, so we've got to make that safe enough for kids one way or another). If we need to cook at home more and skip some socializing over the next few months I do not view that as a great tragedy. We have adjusted over the last year.
Anonymous
08/23/2021 00:21
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
I mean no idea if it's starting or not but did Target drive up on Friday and in recent months it had taken 2 min max. It took 5-7 min to even get into a drive up parking spot and another 5-10 min for them to bring the goods out. So clearly some % of people in the DMV that was going into stores in recent weeks/months is now going back to some amount of curb side.
Seems like a smart decision due to Delta and will reduce the number of in-store shoppers and thus odds of transmission. Having to wait a little longer for the convenience of curb side pick up isn't a huge deal and it's great we have all these options that allow people to avoid being inside public spaces for long periods of time.
Anonymous
08/23/2021 00:13
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:If “it’s happening” means “people in the DMV are freaking about covid” - you are correct. You can also see it in the increasingly hysterical calls to close DCPS again.
IDK if people are freaking out or not - maybe - but yeah I do see some slight changes in behavior. It is a touch harder to get instacart spots, it's taking longer to get curbside at big box stores etc. So at least some % of people in the DMV are now declining to go into stores. I don't think it's huge percentages, people are out and about but SOMEONE is deciding to stay home, stay out of indoor settings etc.
Anonymous
08/23/2021 00:07
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
I mean no idea if it's starting or not but did Target drive up on Friday and in recent months it had taken 2 min max. It took 5-7 min to even get into a drive up parking spot and another 5-10 min for them to bring the goods out. So clearly some % of people in the DMV that was going into stores in recent weeks/months is now going back to some amount of curb side.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 23:47
Subject: Re:3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:There are a number of ways that anxiety distorts your thought patterns, with the effect of increasing anxiety and making it harder for you to make decisions, enjoy things you'd normally enjoy, and just generally function. Here are a few:
Catastrophizing is when someone assumes that the worst will happen. Often, it involves believing that you’re in a worse situation than you really are or exaggerating the difficulties you face.
Jumping to conclusions can involve both believing that you know what others are thinking (mind reading) and predicting the future (fortune-telling or predictive thinking).
Overgeneralization means believing that the results of one situation predict the results of all future situations. If your thoughts often involve the words "all," "never," "always," and "every" you might be overgeneralizing.
Mental filtering means only seeing the negative parts of situations, and filtering out positive or neutral information.
Black and white thinking means seeing everything in extremes; there is no room for the middle ground and you see everything as all or none. Whatever the issue, there are no shades of gray when you are thinking this way. People are right or wrong and situations are good or bad.
If you recognize your thinking in any of this, especially around Covid, I would highly recommend talking to a medical professional about anxiety. I would also recommend maybe getting a workbook on CBT for anxiety, which will help you recognize when your thinking is being distorted by your anxiety and learn how to make adjustments so that instead of feeding anxiety, you can evaluate situations and make productive choices. Here is one: https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Behavioral-Workbook-Anxiety-Step/dp/1626250154
Oh, STFU.
NP
Anonymous
08/22/2021 23:11
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Sounds to me like you are disorganized as hell.
???
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:51
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
Thank you for these facts from the ground, OP. They are much more valuable than the innumerable data sources on Covid prevalence.
You mean data sources like this?
Virginia is mirroring the surge that Florida is already seeing. But keep that head in the sand.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html
NO, You are intentionally being misleading.
Those two graphs are on different scales.
The Virginia graph you posted shows cases less than 2k per day.
The Florida graph shows over 25k cases per day
That is NOT called mirroring.
And in addition, you only posted deaths from Florida. The death rate in Virginia has remained flat.
Click on the link to see for yourselves.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
Re-post because I don't feel like explaining it again -
Cases are surging and the Delta variant is 3x more contagious. At the same time vaccine efficacy has gone down because the two shots loose efficiency around the 6-month mark. Guess when most of the adult population originally got their first shot? That's right - six months ago in March 2021. So now we all need boosters but boosters are not coming until October 2021 at the earliest.
So cases rise. Hospitalizations rise. And oh - schools in this area are now open to 1 million students congregating in small classrooms and half of that population is completely unvaccinated. Do you get it now?
You just used “loose” to mean lose.
And efficiency to mean efficacy.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:48
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
Thank you for these facts from the ground, OP. They are much more valuable than the innumerable data sources on Covid prevalence.
You mean data sources like this?
Virginia is mirroring the surge that Florida is already seeing. But keep that head in the sand.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html
NO, You are intentionally being misleading.
Those two graphs are on different scales.
The Virginia graph you posted shows cases less than 2k per day.
The Florida graph shows over 25k cases per day
That is NOT called mirroring.
And in addition, you only posted deaths from Florida. The death rate in Virginia has remained flat.
Click on the link to see for yourselves.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
Re-post because I don't feel like explaining it again -
Cases are surging and the Delta variant is 3x more contagious. At the same time vaccine efficacy has gone down because the two shots loose efficiency around the 6-month mark. Guess when most of the adult population originally got their first shot? That's right - six months ago in March 2021. So now we all need boosters but boosters are not coming until October 2021 at the earliest.
So cases rise. Hospitalizations rise. And oh - schools in this area are now open to 1 million students congregating in small classrooms and half of that population is completely unvaccinated. Do you get it now?
You just used “loose” to mean lose.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:43
Subject: Re:3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a number of ways that anxiety distorts your thought patterns, with the effect of increasing anxiety and making it harder for you to make decisions, enjoy things you'd normally enjoy, and just generally function. Here are a few:
Catastrophizing is when someone assumes that the worst will happen. Often, it involves believing that you’re in a worse situation than you really are or exaggerating the difficulties you face.
Jumping to conclusions can involve both believing that you know what others are thinking (mind reading) and predicting the future (fortune-telling or predictive thinking).
Overgeneralization means believing that the results of one situation predict the results of all future situations. If your thoughts often involve the words "all," "never," "always," and "every" you might be overgeneralizing.
Mental filtering means only seeing the negative parts of situations, and filtering out positive or neutral information.
Black and white thinking means seeing everything in extremes; there is no room for the middle ground and you see everything as all or none. Whatever the issue, there are no shades of gray when you are thinking this way. People are right or wrong and situations are good or bad.
If you recognize your thinking in any of this, especially around Covid, I would highly recommend talking to a medical professional about anxiety. I would also recommend maybe getting a workbook on CBT for anxiety, which will help you recognize when your thinking is being distorted by your anxiety and learn how to make adjustments so that instead of feeding anxiety, you can evaluate situations and make productive choices. Here is one: https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Behavioral-Workbook-Anxiety-Step/dp/1626250154
I'm not OP but wanted to thank you for posting this. I suffer from debilitating anxiety and even though I take meds and am in therapy, this was a very helpful reminder.
+1. Ditto, and I just purchased that book you recommended for myself.
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:41
Subject: Re:3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:To be very clear - look. pretty. picture.
Citation: 5:36 mark of CDC presentation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vwzukqmA8
You can also just read the CDC study that shows vaccines have lost 50% of their efficacy when going up against the Delta/Indian variant.
Effectiveness of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna Vaccines in Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Nursing Home Residents Before and During Widespread Circulation of the SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant — National Healthcare Safety Network, March 1–August 1, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e3.htm
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:39
Subject: Re:3 signs that it is beginning again
To be very clear - look. pretty. picture.
Citation: 5:36 mark of CDC presentation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vwzukqmA8
Citation: 5:36 mark of CDC presentation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vwzukqmA8
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:35
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
Thank you for these facts from the ground, OP. They are much more valuable than the innumerable data sources on Covid prevalence.
You mean data sources like this?
Virginia is mirroring the surge that Florida is already seeing. But keep that head in the sand.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html
NO, You are intentionally being misleading.
Those two graphs are on different scales.
The Virginia graph you posted shows cases less than 2k per day.
The Florida graph shows over 25k cases per day
That is NOT called mirroring.
And in addition, you only posted deaths from Florida. The death rate in Virginia has remained flat.
Click on the link to see for yourselves.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
+1
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:35
Subject: 3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) I had to wait 5 hours to get Instacart slot.
2) DS could not get an urgent care appointment before 8:50 today. We are just going to pediatrician tomorrow.
3) Nursing home would not accept hand-delivered care package for my relative.
Thank you for these facts from the ground, OP. They are much more valuable than the innumerable data sources on Covid prevalence.
You mean data sources like this?
Virginia is mirroring the surge that Florida is already seeing. But keep that head in the sand.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html
NO, You are intentionally being misleading.
Those two graphs are on different scales.
The Virginia graph you posted shows cases less than 2k per day.
The Florida graph shows over 25k cases per day
That is NOT called mirroring.
And in addition, you only posted deaths from Florida. The death rate in Virginia has remained flat.
Click on the link to see for yourselves.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/virginia-covid-cases.html
Re-post because I don't feel like explaining it again -
Cases are surging and the Delta variant is 3x more contagious. At the same time vaccine efficacy has gone down because the two shots loose efficiency around the 6-month mark. Guess when most of the adult population originally got their first shot? That's right - six months ago in March 2021. So now we all need boosters but boosters are not coming until October 2021 at the earliest.
So cases rise. Hospitalizations rise. And oh - schools in this area are now open to 1 million students congregating in small classrooms and half of that population is completely unvaccinated. Do you get it now?
Anonymous
08/22/2021 21:34
Subject: Re:3 signs that it is beginning again
Anonymous wrote:Not DC but local Costco is out of TP.
We went to CVS today. They were out of ant bait traps. They only had the spray.