Anonymous
08/02/2021 09:00
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL.
"They're going to lose!"
"Well, okay, they won, but not a win to be poud of!"
How many PK saves do you reckon we have left?
As many as the keeper is able to save.
Narrator:
The US didn’t have any more PK saves left.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 14:32
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The big difference is numbers. The US is the only country with 10,000 continuing renewed women players ages 18-21 who are working out and regularly playing during that 4 year period. No one else is close to those numbers. Out of that 10,000, you have 1500 players graduating college every year. (Lots of players quit during college) Maybe 50 of those 1500 are potential professional level players and maybe 5 are potential national team level players.
Internationally, no country is even close to the US numbers. That is not the case on the men's side. So, the goal in non-US countries is to find and train up 25 good players out of the numbers that they do have. That is a workable system, but it requires proper player selection and training, and a fair amount of luck.
Will the US move on from this player group by World Cup? Sure. They would have moved on before, but covid limited the ability to play and train up new players. You have to get familiar with the systems and structures of play, and with your teammates. Are there younger players in the US who are better and faster than some of the players on the US national team? Of course. Could they have trained with the national team players, learned the systems, played in exhibition games so the team could play well together during the last 18 months? No. So -- that is why the US team and other countries teams went awith what they know. It's not great, but it is workable. It's also why we have players like Carli Lloyd and O'Hara on the roster, and Canada has players like Christine Sinclaire on the rosters. Heck, Marta was the 3rd oldest player on the Brazil team that lost to Canada in PKs this morning. Formiga could call Lloyd menina.
It doesn’t matter if 10,000 players are playing college soccer when only 40 of them are even drafted by the NWSL each year.
You are not too bright are you?
If you think college soccer is a great development platform moving forward I really don’t know what to say.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 14:10
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one cares.
Could be. Although there's a thread for each game and constant whining about the state of USWNT in other threads so some people somewhere care.
The state of USWNT is currently the US has won 1 game in regulation in the Olympics.
Don't be salty now that the US advanced and you were wrong about them losing to the Netherlands 6-0.
quote the 0-6 scoreline otherwise you're creating adversity
Just trolling. No different than you idiots who are pissed that the US is competing for a gold medal.
Anyone that is pissed USWNT is going to win gold is not American.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 14:02
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The big difference is numbers. The US is the only country with 10,000 continuing renewed women players ages 18-21 who are working out and regularly playing during that 4 year period. No one else is close to those numbers. Out of that 10,000, you have 1500 players graduating college every year. (Lots of players quit during college) Maybe 50 of those 1500 are potential professional level players and maybe 5 are potential national team level players.
Internationally, no country is even close to the US numbers. That is not the case on the men's side. So, the goal in non-US countries is to find and train up 25 good players out of the numbers that they do have. That is a workable system, but it requires proper player selection and training, and a fair amount of luck.
Will the US move on from this player group by World Cup? Sure. They would have moved on before, but covid limited the ability to play and train up new players. You have to get familiar with the systems and structures of play, and with your teammates. Are there younger players in the US who are better and faster than some of the players on the US national team? Of course. Could they have trained with the national team players, learned the systems, played in exhibition games so the team could play well together during the last 18 months? No. So -- that is why the US team and other countries teams went awith what they know. It's not great, but it is workable. It's also why we have players like Carli Lloyd and O'Hara on the roster, and Canada has players like Christine Sinclaire on the rosters. Heck, Marta was the 3rd oldest player on the Brazil team that lost to Canada in PKs this morning. Formiga could call Lloyd menina.
It doesn’t matter if 10,000 players are playing college soccer when only 40 of them are even drafted by the NWSL each year.
You are not too bright are you?
Anonymous
07/30/2021 13:39
Subject: Re:USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:The US never trailed in the last World Cup and just four short games into the Olympics they have lost and trailed today. And in fact in their last 17 WC games they are unbeaten.
This is a worse team now than it was in 2019.
Define “worse.” England went to WC semifinals, was able to add a couple better players from Scotland and Wales to their Olympic roster, yet lost in the quarterfinals of the Olympics. Netherlands made it to WC final, yet lost in the quarterfinals of the Olympics. Between those 2021 Olympic teams and the 2019 WC teams, which team will be viewed as “worse?”
Unfortunately, national teams are judged on their results. Playing an attractive style is always nice, but it ultimately doesn’t matter if a team fails to get results. I agree with people that this current UNWNT is old and will need to rebuild around the next generation before the 2023 WC, and it will be interesting to see how they fare in the coming years. However, they have lost 1 game in their past 48, which includes the last WC and this Olympics so far. That has been an amazing, dominant run, and it is not realistic to think it will continue. No team is able to sustain such a run. There is a reason that no defending WC winner has won the gold medal in the following Olympics, even though those dominant US, Germany, Norway and Japan teams had much less competition than currently exists in today’s women’s game. Good luck to the WNT, and I hope they become the first team to accomplish that feat.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 13:29
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Perennial soccer powerhouse continents of North America and Australia get 3 teams in semis. Europe gets one. South America none. Really all you need to know.
it's almost like the countries with the most wh-
Anonymous
07/30/2021 13:26
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:The big difference is numbers. The US is the only country with 10,000 continuing renewed women players ages 18-21 who are working out and regularly playing during that 4 year period. No one else is close to those numbers. Out of that 10,000, you have 1500 players graduating college every year. (Lots of players quit during college) Maybe 50 of those 1500 are potential professional level players and maybe 5 are potential national team level players.
Internationally, no country is even close to the US numbers. That is not the case on the men's side. So, the goal in non-US countries is to find and train up 25 good players out of the numbers that they do have. That is a workable system, but it requires proper player selection and training, and a fair amount of luck.
Will the US move on from this player group by World Cup? Sure. They would have moved on before, but covid limited the ability to play and train up new players. You have to get familiar with the systems and structures of play, and with your teammates. Are there younger players in the US who are better and faster than some of the players on the US national team? Of course. Could they have trained with the national team players, learned the systems, played in exhibition games so the team could play well together during the last 18 months? No. So -- that is why the US team and other countries teams went awith what they know. It's not great, but it is workable. It's also why we have players like Carli Lloyd and O'Hara on the roster, and Canada has players like Christine Sinclaire on the rosters. Heck, Marta was the 3rd oldest player on the Brazil team that lost to Canada in PKs this morning. Formiga could call Lloyd menina.
It doesn’t matter if 10,000 players are playing college soccer when only 40 of them are even drafted by the NWSL each year.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 13:12
Subject: USWNT Game 4
The big difference is numbers. The US is the only country with 10,000 continuing renewed women players ages 18-21 who are working out and regularly playing during that 4 year period. No one else is close to those numbers. Out of that 10,000, you have 1500 players graduating college every year. (Lots of players quit during college) Maybe 50 of those 1500 are potential professional level players and maybe 5 are potential national team level players.
Internationally, no country is even close to the US numbers. That is not the case on the men's side. So, the goal in non-US countries is to find and train up 25 good players out of the numbers that they do have. That is a workable system, but it requires proper player selection and training, and a fair amount of luck.
Will the US move on from this player group by World Cup? Sure. They would have moved on before, but covid limited the ability to play and train up new players. You have to get familiar with the systems and structures of play, and with your teammates. Are there younger players in the US who are better and faster than some of the players on the US national team? Of course. Could they have trained with the national team players, learned the systems, played in exhibition games so the team could play well together during the last 18 months? No. So -- that is why the US team and other countries teams went awith what they know. It's not great, but it is workable. It's also why we have players like Carli Lloyd and O'Hara on the roster, and Canada has players like Christine Sinclaire on the rosters. Heck, Marta was the 3rd oldest player on the Brazil team that lost to Canada in PKs this morning. Formiga could call Lloyd menina.
Internationally, no country is even close to the US numbers. That is not the case on the men's side. So, the goal in non-US countries is to find and train up 25 good players out of the numbers that they do have. That is a workable system, but it requires proper player selection and training, and a fair amount of luck.
Will the US move on from this player group by World Cup? Sure. They would have moved on before, but covid limited the ability to play and train up new players. You have to get familiar with the systems and structures of play, and with your teammates. Are there younger players in the US who are better and faster than some of the players on the US national team? Of course. Could they have trained with the national team players, learned the systems, played in exhibition games so the team could play well together during the last 18 months? No. So -- that is why the US team and other countries teams went awith what they know. It's not great, but it is workable. It's also why we have players like Carli Lloyd and O'Hara on the roster, and Canada has players like Christine Sinclaire on the rosters. Heck, Marta was the 3rd oldest player on the Brazil team that lost to Canada in PKs this morning. Formiga could call Lloyd menina.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 13:00
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one cares.
Could be. Although there's a thread for each game and constant whining about the state of USWNT in other threads so some people somewhere care.
The state of USWNT is currently the US has won 1 game in regulation in the Olympics.
Don't be salty now that the US advanced and you were wrong about them losing to the Netherlands 6-0.
I never made such a prediction. But this Olympic performance is nothing to be proud of.
Sorry, but one regulation win in four games for the top ranked team in the world is abysmal.
Oh well. Onto the medal round!
Terrific.
Backing into the medal round. We'll all be a so excited to watch them in the Bronze medal game and you can perpetuate the myth that US Soccer will stay on top.
What is frustrating is a vast majority of American Soccer fans truly enjoy this brand of soccer as it erodes in front of them.
I want better for our soccer program and you don't.
What makes you think that the US should win all the time? We have a particular style that has worked well for us for a decade. That's an anomaly. Nobody stays at the top for long.
Even with our geriatric group, todays game was still pretty damn competitive and fun to watch. Moving forward, the USWNT needs to adjust just like everyone else has adjusted to us. And they will. Be happy for the competition and that we're still in the top five. We won't always be, so be happy.
We have a lead on international soccer that we are squandering because we are either to stubborn, to scared or to ignorant to take risks necessary to move ahead.
Our domestic league is falling behind and our best players will not be able to compete in Europe without the right passport or until at least 17 years old. The best players are going to be trained through their youth in Premier League, La Liga academies etc.
Our best will play in college as essentially part-time athletes to then be drafted into NWSL. The only US players who will have an opportunity to play in Europe would be WNT players further diluting our own domestic league.
So while the best European players will be playing professionally form 17 years old on our best will be balancing advanced HS style soccer with college Calc.
Our potential best will be shut out of Europe during the most important professionally developmental years and thus falling behind.
Ok, Henny Penny, that will be enough. That's not the way it works at all. Nobody stays on top forever because there is ceiling on performance.
In this case you are the Henny Penny. You’re just gonna throw your hands up in the air and accept that “nobody stays on top forever”. I’m actually claiming otherwise just that we need to accept that we need to make changes to remain on top for the next generation.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 12:35
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one cares.
Could be. Although there's a thread for each game and constant whining about the state of USWNT in other threads so some people somewhere care.
The state of USWNT is currently the US has won 1 game in regulation in the Olympics.
Don't be salty now that the US advanced and you were wrong about them losing to the Netherlands 6-0.
I never made such a prediction. But this Olympic performance is nothing to be proud of.
Sorry, but one regulation win in four games for the top ranked team in the world is abysmal.
Oh well. Onto the medal round!
Terrific.
Backing into the medal round. We'll all be a so excited to watch them in the Bronze medal game and you can perpetuate the myth that US Soccer will stay on top.
What is frustrating is a vast majority of American Soccer fans truly enjoy this brand of soccer as it erodes in front of them.
I want better for our soccer program and you don't.
What makes you think that the US should win all the time? We have a particular style that has worked well for us for a decade. That's an anomaly. Nobody stays at the top for long.
Even with our geriatric group, todays game was still pretty damn competitive and fun to watch. Moving forward, the USWNT needs to adjust just like everyone else has adjusted to us. And they will. Be happy for the competition and that we're still in the top five. We won't always be, so be happy.
We have a lead on international soccer that we are squandering because we are either to stubborn, to scared or to ignorant to take risks necessary to move ahead.
Our domestic league is falling behind and our best players will not be able to compete in Europe without the right passport or until at least 17 years old. The best players are going to be trained through their youth in Premier League, La Liga academies etc.
Our best will play in college as essentially part-time athletes to then be drafted into NWSL. The only US players who will have an opportunity to play in Europe would be WNT players further diluting our own domestic league.
So while the best European players will be playing professionally form 17 years old on our best will be balancing advanced HS style soccer with college Calc.
Our potential best will be shut out of Europe during the most important professionally developmental years and thus falling behind.
Ok, Henny Penny, that will be enough. That's not the way it works at all. Nobody stays on top forever because there is ceiling on performance.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 12:35
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are people who want USWNT to lose because Megan Rapinoe was mean to Donald Trump. Losing will be righteous punishment for them being liberal. Or something.
Not true for me. I like Rapinoe, I believe they should be paid on par with the men's team, I feel she and the rest have earned their accolades. I love that they kneel. All that said great players have to step aside at some point.
I simply feel that this team, our style and our overall development and identification process are past their prime.
We are at the end of our Empire. I just want to see a unified effort to move on to the next phase. Being a Fan boy will not keep us on top. Not being able to objectively criticize this team is also holding us back.
This is exactly how i feel. And i have a DD playing in college with a legit — not shoo-in but legit — chance to play pro. If she haS the chance to play after college I would advise her to go to England, Sweden, Spain, frANCE rather than NWSL. Even though the youth system worked for her, it is a mess and we need a unified vision to move to the next phase, not this they’re great/they’re terrible, all or nothing thinking.
Anonymous
07/30/2021 12:32
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Anonymous wrote:Perennial soccer powerhouse continents of North America and Australia get 3 teams in semis. Europe gets one. South America none. Really all you need to know.
Well one might also want to know that:
There are limited Bertha and they simply go based on WC result for women
So the 3 slots for Europe: UK Sweden and Ned all made it to quarterfinals and were eliminated on PKs except for Sweden
For the men it is even more of a qualifying joke just take top 4 Euro 21 finishers
Men’s teams send young new players for most part Neymar is an exception based on age
So yes in a field you qualify into on old rankings and don’t bring your elite players it makes for a more competitive tournament
Heck even the USWNT did not bother to bring its best players
Anonymous
07/30/2021 12:02
Subject: USWNT Game 4
Perennial soccer powerhouse continents of North America and Australia get 3 teams in semis. Europe gets one. South America none. Really all you need to know.