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Anonymous wrote:Very simple place to look at salaries for DMV software engineers:
https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/Northern-Virginia-Washington-DC/

Many of us post on there and it is fairly accurate. You can keep telling yourself about those "average" number you want to believe. You can def get pay more than that in this area if you are willing to study/prepare.

this is shocking

Agree. It is the salary difference that's shocking. I wonder what's the real difference between 90k and 250k engineer with same yoe

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Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Are you a boomer and thinking of 1980s salaries? Your company must either have lots of vacancies or really low performers if those are your rates. I'd avoid working w/ you.

Nope. 44 year old with a masters in electrical engineering. Been in the industry for 20 years. First half of my career was in Silicon Valley and second half in the DC area. I've worked at tech companies in both locations. I hire mostly embedded firmware guys, hardware engineers, and mechanical engineers for my team. Our company does software as well, so I know the salaries of those guys too. When I started out in the late 90s, entry level guys were making 50K in the valley fresh out of school. I have no idea what people were making in the 80s. I'm not that old.

If you look at the BLS links posted above, they seem to match pretty well with what I've posted.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Are you a boomer and thinking of 1980s salaries? Your company must either have lots of vacancies or really low performers if those are your rates. I'd avoid working w/ you.

I am 30 year tech exec currently managing a $300M P&L for a PE owned SaaS business. Those salaries above look a little low but they are spitting distance to the ones my company pays. Kudos to you folks working at FAANG with the big $ and limited hours. Seems you have it good!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Are you a boomer and thinking of 1980s salaries? Your company must either have lots of vacancies or really low performers if those are your rates. I'd avoid working w/ you.

Well those are essentially gov employee salaries, and tech contractors only make a little more than civilians except for the rock stars.

I’ve tried for years to get into FAANG, I’m likely too old now, so where else in DC would I get higher pay like you allude to?

Faang is literally only 5 companies and only 3 of them hire here. There are plenty of companies you can get a lot of compensation now that a lot of companies are hiring remotely.

Anonymous wrote:Very simple place to look at salaries for DMV software engineers:
https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/Northern-Virginia-Washington-DC/

Many of us post on there and it is fairly accurate. You can keep telling yourself about those "average" number you want to believe. You can def get pay more than that in this area if you are willing to study/prepare.

this is shocking

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Are you a boomer and thinking of 1980s salaries? Your company must either have lots of vacancies or really low performers if those are your rates. I'd avoid working w/ you.

Well those are essentially gov employee salaries, and tech contractors only make a little more than civilians except for the rock stars.

I’ve tried for years to get into FAANG, I’m likely too old now, so where else in DC would I get higher pay like you allude to?

Very simple place to look at salaries for DMV software engineers:
https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/Northern-Virginia-Washington-DC/

Many of us post on there and it is fairly accurate. You can keep telling yourself about those "average" number you want to believe. You can def get pay more than that in this area if you are willing to study/prepare.

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Anonymous wrote:in house lawyer at tech co $210 plus bonus

What does the bonus/equity look like for an in-house lawyer at a tech co?

Bonus is anywhere from 40K when we had a crappy year to $134K. Can't describe my equity without giving out too much personal info but it's a sweetener. You didn't ask about hours, but I'm supposed to work 45. I work about 35 except at the end of each quarter when it's closer to 50 per week.

+1 RSU refresher is sweet!

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Anonymous wrote:in house lawyer at tech co $210 plus bonus

What does the bonus/equity look like for an in-house lawyer at a tech co?

Bonus is anywhere from 40K when we had a crappy year to $134K. Can't describe my equity without giving out too much personal info but it's a sweetener. You didn't ask about hours, but I'm supposed to work 45. I work about 35 except at the end of each quarter when it's closer to 50 per week.

Anonymous wrote:Is FANG hiring folks with clearances? I would assume A and G would be for sure given the cloud infrastructure.

As someone who interviewed with A, F and G last year, I can tell you few for A and no for G. For the DC offices, A works on AWS and G works on privacy. A has very few teams that want people with clearances, but G doesn't have any of that. If you want easy clearance job, try Microsoft. 70% of their positions are cleared.

Is FANG hiring folks with clearances? I would assume A and G would be for sure given the cloud infrastructure.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Are you a boomer and thinking of 1980s salaries? Your company must either have lots of vacancies or really low performers if those are your rates. I'd avoid working w/ you.

Per the BLS, the average May 2020 salary for "Software Developers and Software Quality Assurance Analysts and Testers" was $119,920 and the average salary for "Computer Programmers" was $105,060 in the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV metropolitan area. For just DC the numbers are similar.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_47900.htm

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Thats what I thought is average here in DC .. and what % of population here in DC metro works in FAANG . I guess may be 2-3% ?

far less than 2-3 percent.

2-3% might be true several years ago, but not anymore. FAANG are expanding their DC offices. Amazon is very obvious, but F and G are aggressively trying as well. During covid, they both renovated and expanded their DC office. I also have friends relocated to DC because there are gonna be more new initiative.

Many tech people have the misconception that FAANG DC does not provide many positions, so they don't even look here. I highly recommend local engineers to give it a try if you want to bump the pay before others find the gem. The standard pay rate of DC is only 10% less than Bay Area rate, which is very competitive here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to let everybody know, the salaries that have been reported here are, for the most part, so outlandish compared to what the average computer science or engineering grad can home to make coming out of a top 25 program as to be worth ignoring. These folks are the the 1% of graduates. Not everybody can work at FAANG. By comparison, the average salary for a top 25-ish fresh computer engineer is 91k, but at google it's more like 170k.

Exactly this. I work in a local tech company that sells to the DoD. None of our engineers are making that kind of money. $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.

Thats what I thought is average here in DC .. and what % of population here in DC metro works in FAANG . I guess may be 2-3% ?

far less than 2-3 percent.

so, I guess 90% in DC metro fall in these ranges then ?

>>> $150K for managers, $130K or so for senior developers, 80k for new hires fresh out of school.