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This is exactly why I was looking for game video. It's difficult to give an unbiased evaluation when you are a team parent. Perception of teams and games is heavily biased. I was just offering up an unbiased evaluation of one single game. Fair or not, when I see this game in isolation I see one thing, but you chalk it up to a slightly off game or fifteenth in twenty-two days, which kind of sound like excuses. It's ok, there is a context for every game which is lost when only evaluating a single game. Which is why it's silly to argue back and forth about which team is better. I'd much rather watch the videos and decide for myself. Would be great if we had a library of videos by team so when crazy parents come on here talking garbage we could just reference the videos as evidence vs biased opinions.

No. You chalked it up to Arlington usually outmatching their opponents physically (something which is not true, and for which you have no evidence) and claimed that this game was the one where they finally faced an opponent who were their physical match (when in fact the opponent in this case was clearly significantly athletically superior). I pointed out that this was not the case. I offered various reasons for why Arlington might not have played as well as usual including that the opponents were actually very good.

You are not providing an unbiased opinion here - you are clearly biased against Arlington for whatever reason whilst trying to masquerade as an unbiased observer.

So, anything not positive for Arlington team equals biased? Don't worry team parent, you convinced me with your explanations. Arlington has the best 06 boys team in the world.

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This is exactly why I was looking for game video. It's difficult to give an unbiased evaluation when you are a team parent. Perception of teams and games is heavily biased. I was just offering up an unbiased evaluation of one single game. Fair or not, when I see this game in isolation I see one thing, but you chalk it up to a slightly off game or fifteenth in twenty-two days, which kind of sound like excuses. It's ok, there is a context for every game which is lost when only evaluating a single game. Which is why it's silly to argue back and forth about which team is better. I'd much rather watch the videos and decide for myself. Would be great if we had a library of videos by team so when crazy parents come on here talking garbage we could just reference the videos as evidence vs biased opinions.

No. You chalked it up to Arlington usually outmatching their opponents physically (something which is not true, and for which you have no evidence) and claimed that this game was the one where they finally faced an opponent who were their physical match (when in fact the opponent in this case was clearly significantly athletically superior). I pointed out that this was not the case. I offered various reasons for why Arlington might not have played as well as usual including that the opponents were actually very good.

You are not providing an unbiased opinion here - you are clearly biased against Arlington for whatever reason whilst trying to masquerade as an unbiased observer.

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maybe we should just credit their opponent

When our team struggles we credit the opponent. But when our team looks good we credit ourselves not a bad opponent?

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maybe we should just credit their opponent

When our team struggles we credit the opponent. But when our team looks good we credit ourselves not a bad opponent?

This is exactly why I was looking for game video. It's difficult to give an unbiased evaluation when you are a team parent. Perception of teams and games is heavily biased. I was just offering up an unbiased evaluation of one single game. Fair or not, when I see this game in isolation I see one thing, but you chalk it up to a slightly off game or fifteenth in twenty-two days, which kind of sound like excuses. It's ok, there is a context for every game which is lost when only evaluating a single game. Which is why it's silly to argue back and forth about which team is better. I'd much rather watch the videos and decide for myself. Would be great if we had a library of videos by team so when crazy parents come on here talking garbage we could just reference the videos as evidence vs biased opinions.

maybe we should just credit their opponent

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to SYC and Arlington parents go back and forth with their keen game analysis does me no good. Are there any video links to 06 games, Arlington or SYC, so I can make my own judgements? Maybe the USYS national games were recorded?

Final is here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjpLqZyqTyc

Nice! This is the only national event I've seen with a commentator and replays. Evenly matched game decided in penalty kicks. Arlington has some nicely skilled players, particularly the kid who scored the tying goal right near the end, when he dribbled past 3 defenders. Arlington was trying to play from the back but not with much success when the other team was pressuring. The only goal they scored was on a corner kick so it's not like they progressed up the field with adept passes. The goal Arlington did let up was because of a bad mistake by the goalkeeper. Overall, typical American soccer game.

Arlington parent here, so perhaps I'm biased, but I don't think this is a completely balanced assessment although it's not totally off base either. It certainly wasn't Arlington's best performance, and it would be fair to say that they did not manage to possess the ball as well as they usually do, but nevertheless they did work the ball forwards and create quite a few chances - hit the woodwork, ball cleared off the line by a defender, penalty that *probably* should have been given, and forced several saves from the keeper a couple of which were reasonably good saves. The nationals team really only had one good shot on target which - as you say - followed a goalkeeping error and went in the net.

It also should be pointed out that Arlington's struggles to play their game as they usually manage came against a very well organized and athletic team which had not been defeated in a single game all year and executed the high press very well.

And I don't think you could describe any game which featured Arlington's goal as a "typical American soccer" game. That goal really was a Maradonna like piece of individual brilliance - and if you have actually seen another goal quite like it in a live U15 game (not a worldwide search of "best U15 goals ever" on youtibe)- well I certainly haven't. Here's the link to the goal itself: https://youtu.be/OjpLqZyqTyc?t=9481

Well of course you are biased. It was a hard fought win and the team should be proud. The game could easily have gone either way in overtime or PKs.

My point was that the game could much more easily have gone Arlington's way in regular time than the other way. Arlington had at least 5 or 6 reasonable chances to score (many more actual shots onviously), and probably would usually have scored 2-3 goals given similar opportunities. The other team really only had one, which came from a goalkeeping error. Yes of course, once the game ends up in PKs, it could easily go either way - but most of the time the imbalance in shots on goal would have led to a win in regular time.

Anyone who has seen this team play knows that they build from the back and play a style more akin to Spanish futbol than American soccer.

In this game they were not playing Spanish futbol. Maybe they do against lessor opponents who don’t match up with them physically. If that’s not how they normally play then maybe they are used to playing highly outmatched teams and need better competition