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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

I’m from NYC and I can assure you UVA is viewed as in the same tier as Berkeley and Michigan.

Buddy I'm also from NYC and live here currently. UVA doesn't have "considerable swag" - quite the opposite. It's seen as a little southern, perhaps a great fit for a white middle class pearl-wearing Sally. Not exactly what I'd call "swag."

Berkeley and Michigan (and even UCLA) are seen as more prestigious than UVA.

Oh you’re definitely still living in the early 2000’s, forgot that old people use this site.

Lol. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Funny because I'm 100% positive I'm younger than you.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

I’m from NYC and I can assure you UVA is viewed as in the same tier as Berkeley and Michigan.

Buddy I'm also from NYC and live here currently. UVA doesn't have "considerable swag" - quite the opposite. It's seen as a little southern, perhaps a great fit for a white middle class pearl-wearing Sally. Not exactly what I'd call "swag."

Berkeley and Michigan (and even UCLA) are seen as more prestigious than UVA.

Oh you’re definitely still living in the early 2000’s, forgot that old people use this site.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

I’m from NYC and I can assure you UVA is viewed as in the same tier as Berkeley and Michigan.

Buddy I'm also from NYC and live here currently. UVA doesn't have "considerable swag" - quite the opposite. It's seen as a little southern, perhaps a great fit for a white middle class pearl-wearing Sally. Not exactly what I'd call "swag."

Berkeley and Michigan (and even UCLA) are seen as more prestigious than UVA.

Tell that to all the UVA grads making a killing on Wall Street.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

I’m from NYC and I can assure you UVA is viewed as in the same tier as Berkeley and Michigan.

Buddy I'm also from NYC and live here currently. UVA doesn't have "considerable swag" - quite the opposite. It's seen as a little southern, perhaps a great fit for a white middle class pearl-wearing Sally. Not exactly what I'd call "swag."

Berkeley and Michigan (and even UCLA) are seen as more prestigious than UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

I’m from NYC and I can assure you UVA is viewed as in the same tier as Berkeley and Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

“Considerable swag in NYC”? DP but I assure you that is not the case. UVA is viewed as another public school, a step below Berkeley and Michigan here.

No! If you are old enough to have a child in college, you should have outgrown living for what others think.

That is sad. I think you should consider therapy if your self image is wrapped up in impressing other parents by where your child goes to school. Your insecurity is probably impacting many aspects of your life.

Your child should go to the best place for achieving THEIR goals (that is an option). It is not about how it makes YOU look.

Personally, yes, I'd be somewhat embarrassed because I know on good authority it's just not that difficult to get into a "prestige" college if you're UMC or a URM. That said, I know a lot of rich people who couldn't give a s*** less and just let their kid go to whatever party college they want to go to, and they all turn out fine. As in rich connected people with the connections to pull strings to get their kid into a "prestige" college and they simply don't. So if it doesn't bother them and doesn't impact their kids' trajectory, why should it bother anyone else's? As long as it's not a community college or the local regional commuter U, college is college. Just finish and encourage them to hang with smart/rich peers.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

UVA has considerable swag in NYC. Certainly more than Smith at least. Get real.

Anonymous wrote:Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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For example, Smith and Vassar are regarded as being more prestigious than UVA, despite being less selective. At least that’s the case here in NY.

Prestige and selectivity are related, but not the same. Prestige is earned over a longer period of time. Selectivity is more of a short term and perhaps transient. If there is a demographic change driving increased selectivity for an institution, for instance, it doesn't necessarily drive an increase in prestige. An institution that remains highly selective over time will likely increase in prestige.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, yes, because we emphasize academics, believe the education, classmates, and overall experience is superior at an excellent school, and have kids with the expected stats. That said, a parent can’t expect the unreasonable. If your kid isn’t taking a rigorous curriculum, getting excellent grades, scoring a 34/1500 on the ACT/SAT, then it’s not realistic to expect admission to prestigious college. In that case, one can’t be embarrassed about something that was never obtainable.

But excellence and prestige are not necessarily the same thing.

True dat. My DC wants to ED Carleton. One of her friends Moms (who doesn’t have the best social skills) asked why she’d apply to a school no one had ever heard of. Excellent SLAC. Not necessarily prestigious in the DMV.

Kinda like UVA is not necessarily prestigious outside the DMV.

How is a school with a 21% acceptance rate and average test scores in the 97th percentile not prestigious? Put this in perspective, out of every 100 students taking the SAT or ACT, on average, only 3 will score high enough to meet UVA’s AVERAGE accepted test score. That’s not including all the students who do not take the test because they don’t go to college. People on DC urban really need to start putting things in perspective and get out of their bubble.

Selective is not the same thing as prestigious. Many people in the DMV are obsessed with UVA. Outside this region, it’s not a school people focus on.

Tell that to the 85% of out of state applicants this year ago didn't get in....

Articles that use prestigious and selective synonymously when talking about colleges. Get debunked.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/education/500609-the-pay-off-for-a-prestigious-college-degree-is-smaller-than-you-think%3famp

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/051915/university-prestige-really-important.asp

https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5968681/expensive-college-worth-it

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, yes, because we emphasize academics, believe the education, classmates, and overall experience is superior at an excellent school, and have kids with the expected stats. That said, a parent can’t expect the unreasonable. If your kid isn’t taking a rigorous curriculum, getting excellent grades, scoring a 34/1500 on the ACT/SAT, then it’s not realistic to expect admission to prestigious college. In that case, one can’t be embarrassed about something that was never obtainable.

But excellence and prestige are not necessarily the same thing.

True dat. My DC wants to ED Carleton. One of her friends Moms (who doesn’t have the best social skills) asked why she’d apply to a school no one had ever heard of. Excellent SLAC. Not necessarily prestigious in the DMV.

Kinda like UVA is not necessarily prestigious outside the DMV.

How is a school with a 21% acceptance rate and average test scores in the 97th percentile not prestigious? Put this in perspective, out of every 100 students taking the SAT or ACT, on average, only 3 will score high enough to meet UVA’s AVERAGE accepted test score. That’s not including all the students who do not take the test because they don’t go to college. People on DC urban really need to start putting things in perspective and get out of their bubble.

Selective is not the same thing as prestigious. Many people in the DMV are obsessed with UVA. Outside this region, it’s not a school people focus on.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, yes, because we emphasize academics, believe the education, classmates, and overall experience is superior at an excellent school, and have kids with the expected stats. That said, a parent can’t expect the unreasonable. If your kid isn’t taking a rigorous curriculum, getting excellent grades, scoring a 34/1500 on the ACT/SAT, then it’s not realistic to expect admission to prestigious college. In that case, one can’t be embarrassed about something that was never obtainable.

But excellence and prestige are not necessarily the same thing.

True dat. My DC wants to ED Carleton. One of her friends Moms (who doesn’t have the best social skills) asked why she’d apply to a school no one had ever heard of. Excellent SLAC. Not necessarily prestigious in the DMV.

More embarrassed for the mom that is ignorant about Carleton than the student.