The thing this thread reveals that I keep saying to people in real life is all these CRT people have zero clue what they’re talking about. Not even just with CRT which is a given. They want to say what happens in education but people don’t even know what FOIA does and doesn’t cover, the difference between curriculum and standards, what is in a lesson plan. It’s wild. Who the hell gave any of you the notion you should have control over what and how schools teach when you know NOTHING about even the most basic concepts related to school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are no CRT lessons.

Then it should show up on the lesson Plans

I don’t understand this response.

“I want to see all your French lesson plans”
“There are no French lesson plans”
“Then it should show up on the lesson plans”

Huh? What lesson plans would something show up on that isn’t a thing.
No one is teaching kindergarteners an advanced legal/sociological concept.

+1000, I'm just trying to teach the kindergartners how to write their first and last names and count (and write) to 20. Nobody's got time for all this other bs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are no CRT lessons.

Then it should show up on the lesson Plans

I don’t understand this response.

“I want to see all your French lesson plans”
“There are no French lesson plans”
“Then it should show up on the lesson plans”

Huh? What lesson plans would something show up on that isn’t a thing.
No one is teaching kindergarteners an advanced legal/sociological concept.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Does Virginia exempt copyrighted materials? Federally, isn't research, criticism, news etc. fair use? In Virginia, can requested docs simply be inspected so they don't require reproduction.

No. Curriculum would be a product that a company produced and a district paid for. It is intellectual property. It would not be subject to FOIA’s. FOIA is for internal communication, data, records.

Anonymous wrote:I might file a FOIA for all FOIAs related to CRT so I can figure out who OP is and make that information known publicly.

Please do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Perhaps I'm using the term wrong, but I've seen on many schools websites or the districts website what they were planning to cover in very fine detail.

And the majority of that is just reformatted standards from VDOE

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Does Virginia exempt copyrighted materials? Federally, isn't research, criticism, news etc. fair use? In Virginia, can requested docs simply be inspected so they don't require reproduction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Perhaps I'm using the term wrong, but I've seen on many schools websites or the districts website what they were planning to cover in very fine detail.

Those are standards. Curriculum would have actual materials, assignments, texts, etc

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Perhaps I'm using the term wrong, but I've seen on many schools websites or the districts website what they were planning to cover in very fine detail.

Anonymous wrote:Why are some schoool distracts making so hard to file a FOIA request?
Some of them required you to mail the Foia request others will make you FAx it, and others will not have any info RE: Foia on the website.

I’m trying to get The CRT lessons plans by grade level and it’s seems imposible.

OP, here's a template for a FOIA request. https://chalkboardheresy.com/2021/07/12/foia-letter-for-parents-concerned-citizens/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

No it isn’t. If it exists it’s copyrighted. Rarely does a full curriculum exist to hand to teachers though.

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you actually want to see curricula. There might be a rights issue there because it needs to be purchased. Either way you aren’t going to find what you’re looking for.

Curriculum is usually available on school district websites.

I might file a FOIA for all FOIAs related to CRT so I can figure out who OP is and make that information known publicly.

Anonymous wrote:Omg just stop with the foias. You’re wasting tax payer dollars. Leave foia to the news reporters who will do actual stories. Versus busy bodies like you

She will have to pay for any search and or paperwork.

Anonymous wrote:Why are some schoool distracts making so hard to file a FOIA request?
Some of them required you to mail the Foia request others will make you FAx it, and others will not have any info RE: Foia on the website.

I’m trying to get The CRT lessons plans by grade level and it’s seems imposible.

You cannot FOIA something that doesn’t exist. Well, you can submit the request but you will receive a response that nothing like this exists.

If you want to understand CRT better there are lots of things in the public domain.