Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:24     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


We have dozens of test-in magnet schools all over the country. Should we get rid of all of them?


My child goes to a gifted magnet in the Midwest. The school district tests each kid themselves with a real IQ test and you need a 120 as well as good grades to get into the lottery. The school is racially diverse.


Isn't 120 considered the lower end of "bright"? Not even gifted


Your point? Many TJ students wouldn’t score in the gifted range.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:24     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:

Not saying a kid who took extra math on the outside and likes math competitions isn't not worthy. But so is the kid in algebra I who enjoys stem but doesn’t take outside math or compete. Those two students are both advanced and worthy of a STEM magnet school.


If TJ had unlimited capacity, I would agree with you. Since it doesn't, admitting algebra I kids who enjoy stem will bump out kids who are more advanced in math and more active in stem. The main difference is that the algebra II kid who competes in math contests will not be able to find adequate coursework or high level competition teams at the base school.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:15     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


We have dozens of test-in magnet schools all over the country. Should we get rid of all of them?


My child goes to a gifted magnet in the Midwest. The school district tests each kid themselves with a real IQ test and you need a 120 as well as good grades to get into the lottery. The school is racially diverse.


Isn't 120 considered the lower end of "bright"? Not even gifted
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:14     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Then stop making blanket statements about current TJ students. It’s unbelievably offensive and people like you keep saying it. Make a distinction in your statements.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:13     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:Stop with the prep. Many current TJ students did no prep. Your generalizations and stereotypes are offensive.


Will not stop because it is a real problem. Saying not everyone doesnt it doesn’t make it not a problem.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:11     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


We have dozens of test-in magnet schools all over the country. Should we get rid of all of them?


My child goes to a gifted magnet in the Midwest. The school district tests each kid themselves with a real IQ test and you need a 120 as well as good grades to get into the lottery. The school is racially diverse.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:06     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Stop with the prep. Many current TJ students did no prep. Your generalizations and stereotypes are offensive.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:03     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


We have dozens of test-in magnet schools all over the country. Should we get rid of all of them?


Probably.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 18:01     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Nope. This just created parents like OP who thought they had figured out the recipe for getting into TJ. And they loved that it was harder to attain by most kids who went without the knowledge of the “secret” recipe and means to achieve it. This has nothing to do with talent.


What secret recipe? Being good at math?

If being advanced in math, getting straight As in the highest levels of classes offered by your school, and excelling in STEM competitions doesn't make a child TJ-worthy, then what does? Getting Bs? Taking regular classes? Failing to qualify for Algebra? Not even participating in STEM competitions or doing poorly? Have we entered bizarro world?


Not saying a kid who took extra math on the outside and likes math competitions isn't not worthy. But so is the kid in algebra I who enjoys stem but doesn’t take outside math or compete. Those two students are both advanced and worthy of a STEM magnet school.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:59     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


We have dozens of test-in magnet schools all over the country. Should we get rid of all of them?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:56     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.


X1000
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:54     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
TJ shouldn’t exist. Test prep to get into a high schools is obscene.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:44     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Nope. This just created parents like OP who thought they had figured out the recipe for getting into TJ. And they loved that it was harder to attain by most kids who went without the knowledge of the “secret” recipe and means to achieve it. This has nothing to do with talent.


What secret recipe? Being good at math?

If being advanced in math, getting straight As in the highest levels of classes offered by your school, and excelling in STEM competitions doesn't make a child TJ-worthy, then what does? Getting Bs? Taking regular classes? Failing to qualify for Algebra? Not even participating in STEM competitions or doing poorly? Have we entered bizarro world?


PP here again. It's almost like you and a few other people are suggesting that the kids who've demonstrated that they're very advanced in math and have elite level achievements in math should be dismissed as the product of prepping and privilege, and the kids who've demonstrated no real aptitude or achievement in math are the kids with the true talent.



Prepping clearly worked under the old system.

I strongly suspect that parents will quickly figure out how to game the new system. Hopefully FCPS will just switch to a lottery.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:44     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
I am opposed to the admissions changes but there is NO need to insult this new class. It is not their fault and we shouldn’t assume anything about them. That would be as bad as all the people on here insulting Asian American kids and current TJ students.

Congratulations and best wishes to all who received offers from a parent of two TJ kids who love TJ! I hope your kids love it, too.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2021 17:42     Subject: What are the new TJ feeders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Nope. This just created parents like OP who thought they had figured out the recipe for getting into TJ. And they loved that it was harder to attain by most kids who went without the knowledge of the “secret” recipe and means to achieve it. This has nothing to do with talent.


What secret recipe? Being good at math?

If being advanced in math, getting straight As in the highest levels of classes offered by your school, and excelling in STEM competitions doesn't make a child TJ-worthy, then what does? Getting Bs? Taking regular classes? Failing to qualify for Algebra? Not even participating in STEM competitions or doing poorly? Have we entered bizarro world?


The “secret” was that 28% of the class of 2024 came from one prep company. Whatever that company was doing clearly gave their students an edge.