Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:30
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
I stand by original statement that Texas, and especially Dallas, are not the south. Posh Texas is different from the rest of Texas, but it's still not the south. To the PP who told me to look at a map - using your rules, California is also the South.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:25
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.
You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.
I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.
+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.
Definitely. I grew up Catholic in an affluent area of Nashville (Belle Meade for those that know Nashville). Once had a friend tell me that Catholics are "almost like Christians". Those names are NOT "post" Southern. Sidebar: Reese Witherspoon? That's more of a real Southern name. Lots of family names as first names, before the trend. She's from Nashville.
And she's also actually Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:25
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.
You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.
I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.
+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.
No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.
"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.
Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.
All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?
My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.
Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).
I've never seen Catholics do this, only Jews. Interesting.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:22
Subject: Re:Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Walker not Walter
who converted not was converted
Love the Movie Goer
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:21
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.
You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.
I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.
+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.
Definitely. I grew up Catholic in an affluent area of Nashville (Belle Meade for those that know Nashville). Once had a friend tell me that Catholics are "almost like Christians". Those names are NOT "post" Southern. Sidebar: Reese Witherspoon? That's more of a real Southern name. Lots of family names as first names, before the trend. She's from Nashville.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:15
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
In the book "The help" which takes place in Mississippi, one of the (white) characters has a toddler daughter named "Mae Mobely."
What the heck kind of name is Mobely?
What the heck kind of name is Mobely?
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:11
Subject: Re:Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Walker not Walter
who converted not was converted
who converted not was converted
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:08
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:If you are not from: Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, the Carolinas and Virginia south of Richmond you really don't get to have an opinion on what is a real Southern name. I mean, you can, but it'll be wrong.
I would add Louisiana. They have a very unique culture, but very Southern. The Protestant Anglos in Louisiana would share in general Southern naming traditions. The Catholic French people have their own traditions, but I would definitely count them as Southerners. It should be pointed out that there are Catholic communities throughout the South. Savannah Georgia has a very well known one. The ultimate Catholic Southern writer Flannery O’Connor was from Milledgeville GA. Walter Percy (a favorite writer of mine) was an Anglo from Louisiana was converted to Catholicism.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 13:05
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
This whole thread is tacky, much like those "posh" southern names.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:53
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?
Ha ha yes! I know many nonCatholic Southerners named Mary Grace!
First it was the Reformation, then they took over the Mary + names. Damn Protestants!
But we will always have Scarlet OH...
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:51
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
If you are not from: Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, the Carolinas and Virginia south of Richmond you really don't get to have an opinion on what is a real Southern name. I mean, you can, but it'll be wrong.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:48
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?
Ha ha yes! I know many nonCatholic Southerners named Mary Grace!
First it was the Reformation, then they took over the Mary + names. Damn Protestants!
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:44
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.
You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.
I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.
+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.
No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.
"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.
Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.
All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?
My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.
Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).
Uh huh. Alexandria?
I've already said where I'm from in the thread, which happens to be the very place OP claims to be witnessing these "very cute" names. But I'm sure you're the expert for reasons that date back to before the War of Northern Aggression.
Texas ain't the South! You are from an entirely different culture! You telling a bunch of Protestants "well where I'm from (Catholic Texas) Marys are Catholic" like no shit Sherlock.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:35
Subject: Re:Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:OP on some level I agree with you, as a cute kid with a mouthful of a name always delights me.
However, as someone born in the US, some of those names will always have the whiff of the Confederacy to me. White Southern culture in the US can be hard to stomach at times. I think about little Campbell and Gentry getting married on a plantation, going to Atlanta Braves games and doing the “Tomahawk Chop”, and perpetuating a history of Southern gentility that is inescapably rooted in slavery. It takes the blush of the rose a bit.
So dumb. That might be true of their Boomer grandparents, but Campbell and Gentry (she goes by Genny) are growing up ins multiracial, urban/suburban 21st century society.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 12:34
Subject: Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL who is naming their daughter “Gentry”?! “Mary” is hardly a “Southern” name. And “Callaway” and “Saunders” are both last names. I didn’t realize the South had moved on from their “Hayden”, “Brayden”, “Cayden” phase. Not sure which is worse.
You are obviously not from the south. Two of my closest friends are Mary Katherine and Mary Grace. I’m Anna Elizabeth (Anna Beth). I know so many girls with Mary as part of their name.
I do as well, none of them are Southern. All are Catholic.
+100. Mary Cambpell as a double-barreled name might ring Southern (I know a lot of Southerners that try to shoehorn maiden names once connected to plantations into their daughters' names), but Mary Katherine and Mary Grace are Catholic as the day is long. And as a Catholic who grew up in Dallas and spent several hours with friends "praying the blood of the Lamb" over me so I would accept Jesus into my heart and be Saved (TM), let me tell you that Catholicism is not really associated with the South.
No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype.
"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names.
Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point.
All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others.
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what?
My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind.
Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d).
Uh huh. Alexandria?
I've already said where I'm from in the thread, which happens to be the very place OP claims to be witnessing these "very cute" names. But I'm sure you're the expert for reasons that date back to before the War of Northern Aggression.