Anonymous
06/22/2021 20:27
Subject: Rising 2nd grader not reading
Don’t hold back but figure out exactly why reading is challenging your child and work to address the skill deficit. My son just completed 2nd grade and I don’t know how a kid would have made it through the year without being able to read. Reading to learn was a big focus of 2nd grade.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 18:18
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Can anyone recommend phonics programs? We have IXL phonics we can continue. Is there a good summer review workbook or lessons I can run through with her as a parent?
Anonymous
06/22/2021 17:58
Subject: Rising 2nd grader not reading
It’s really not necessary to post that “i had a kid who did fine with sight reading.”
This thread is for information for those whose children might do better with other forms of instruction that are based in evidence.
This thread is for information for those whose children might do better with other forms of instruction that are based in evidence.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 16:49
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Teaching reading by sight words has been proven ineffective as kids lose the ability to keep up by memorizing words around grade 3. They peak and fizzle. It's important to teach phonics.
+1
Teachers kept telling us DC was a sight reader in 1st and 2nd grade. Turns out she was dyslexic and memorizing words, but still had a lot of trouble decoding them. Sight readers are inefficient readers, and without specialized intervention they will suffer in higher grades when kids move from learning to read to reading to learn.
I have an older child who learned by sight reading. Zero issues in school.
Over time, skilled readers orthographically map all the letters in the words they know to read very quickly. But many kids need a strong foundation in early literacy instruction to reach that point. There's a very well-developed knowledge base on the science of reading that unfortunately is not well applied in many of the private and public schools in our area.
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/what-teachers-should-know-about-the-science-of-reading-video-and-transcript/2019/03
Anonymous
06/22/2021 13:42
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Teaching reading by sight words has been proven ineffective as kids lose the ability to keep up by memorizing words around grade 3. They peak and fizzle. It's important to teach phonics.
+1
Teachers kept telling us DC was a sight reader in 1st and 2nd grade. Turns out she was dyslexic and memorizing words, but still had a lot of trouble decoding them. Sight readers are inefficient readers, and without specialized intervention they will suffer in higher grades when kids move from learning to read to reading to learn.
I have an older child who learned by sight reading. Zero issues in school.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 13:41
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Teaching reading by sight words has been proven ineffective as kids lose the ability to keep up by memorizing words around grade 3. They peak and fizzle. It's important to teach phonics.
It depends on the child. You need to do what is best for the child not teacher. This child needs an evaluation and tutor.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 13:40
Subject: Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised his school did not bring this up throughout the year. Did they express concern about his reading especially given that he is aware he is behind his peers? If not, it does not sound like the school is adequately meeting nor informing you of his needs.
I think this situation shows just how easily kids can skip through the cracks with virtual learning. Next year will certainly be eye-opening.
They can fall through the cracks in person too.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 11:49
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Teaching reading by sight words has been proven ineffective as kids lose the ability to keep up by memorizing words around grade 3. They peak and fizzle. It's important to teach phonics.
+1
Teachers kept telling us DC was a sight reader in 1st and 2nd grade. Turns out she was dyslexic and memorizing words, but still had a lot of trouble decoding them. Sight readers are inefficient readers, and without specialized intervention they will suffer in higher grades when kids move from learning to read to reading to learn.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 11:04
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Teaching reading by sight words has been proven ineffective as kids lose the ability to keep up by memorizing words around grade 3. They peak and fizzle. It's important to teach phonics.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 03:35
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
It depends on the child. Some learn better with sight words, some better with phonics. Try BOTH ways. Mine was a sight reader.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 03:25
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
Don't work on sight words. They will come as she reads. Work on phonics. Read phonetical readers like Bob books or Dear Dragon until she can sound out words. How to Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons is a great book, but there are other phonetic programs that work too.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 01:51
Subject: Rising 2nd grader not reading
I’m there with you OP. My son is on the lower end of the class for reading and started seeing the school’s reading specialist in the spring. His test scores are terrible, but he seems to read better than he scores (still not where he should be though). He’s rising second grade.
I’m going to work with him myself this summer and he’s continuing to see the reading specialist. I’ll ask about testing in the fall if he doesn’t improve.
FWIW, I think a decent number of kids are behind. They had kindergarten cut short and virtual or partially virtual first grade. That’s not the best mode of delivery for reading lessons at all.
I’m going to work with him myself this summer and he’s continuing to see the reading specialist. I’ll ask about testing in the fall if he doesn’t improve.
FWIW, I think a decent number of kids are behind. They had kindergarten cut short and virtual or partially virtual first grade. That’s not the best mode of delivery for reading lessons at all.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 01:39
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
Anonymous wrote:I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.
It is very hard to have a child just learn to read virtually. You need to work with them every night (plus at that age tutor and evaluation).
Anonymous
06/22/2021 00:38
Subject: Rising 2nd grader not reading
Make sure your school is NOT doing whole language or the partial version. Phonics based daily or OG.
Anonymous
06/21/2021 23:09
Subject: Re:Rising 2nd grader not reading
I'm following this thread with great interest because I have a daughter who turned 7 in June, rising to 2nd, and is slow to read. She also was slow to pick up phonics. She recently got a 20/40 R/L and 20/30 bilateral vision so we are following up there. Where would we go for further evaluation and testing for possible dyslexia? We were virtual until March (a full year) and she didn't focus well in virtual despite our best effort to support her. I felt she easily got distracted and was shy to ask questions, often saying the teacher didn't see her, hear her, etc. We will keep reading a little each day. It's not her favorite activity. We are working on sight word reviews and I'm just trying to be patient and keep it positive. I would love testing referrals. In NW DC will commute anywhere.