Anonymous wrote:This post just reinforces that women are exploited and household labor for ones own family should be paid. All the single moms who are not benefiting from a second income should get UBI to get this stuff done.

I do not consider running your own household to be exploitation. However, I will not do this type of work for anyone else and will not exploit another woman by hiring them for less than a living wage.

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Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

I'm not OP

So if no one would do it for $60-75/day---what would be enough to make someone do it, because that's what OP is asking.

$150/day (so about $50/hr?) With guaranteed hours, paid holidays, and 2 weeks paid vacation? That would amount to a little over $41,000/year

$120/day ($40/hr) with same benefits above, would be a little over $31,000/year

Put the rate at $25-30/hour and do 5-6 hours, then you'll have people interested and they'll have enough time.

OP: thank you

It’s not rocket science but it’s a person’s valuable time and smart people will maximize how they spend it. Why make $100 (4@ $25) at the end of the day when you can make $200 plus benefits working normal hours and be home for your own family or after hours activities?

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Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

I'm not OP

So if no one would do it for $60-75/day---what would be enough to make someone do it, because that's what OP is asking.

$150/day (so about $50/hr?) With guaranteed hours, paid holidays, and 2 weeks paid vacation? That would amount to a little over $41,000/year

$120/day ($40/hr) with same benefits above, would be a little over $31,000/year

Put the rate at $25-30/hour and do 5-6 hours, then you'll have people interested and they'll have enough time.

This post just reinforces that women are exploited and household labor for ones own family should be paid. All the single moms who are not benefiting from a second income should get UBI to get this stuff done.

So, OP, let's look at it this way:

I'm a live-in nanny. I'm also a household manager and/or homeschool educator. If a family wants to tack on another role, that's fine, but it costs more.

Some household manager duties that you might include, if you go that route:
car maintenance (taking it in, not doing it)
household ordering
shopping for birthday present for kid parties
dry cleaning pick up/drop off
researching and scheduling camps
scheduling and supervising home repair
party planning and set up
cooking meals for the weekend as well as the week

BUT! Household managers know how much time things take, and we build in extra time in case things change. You might grocery shop while your child has an hour activity. I would pick up dry cleaning and do a curbside pick up, but not go inside, because I don't want to be in the checkout line when my charge gets out.

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Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

I'm not OP

So if no one would do it for $60-75/day---what would be enough to make someone do it, because that's what OP is asking.

$150/day (so about $50/hr?) With guaranteed hours, paid holidays, and 2 weeks paid vacation? That would amount to a little over $41,000/year

$120/day ($40/hr) with same benefits above, would be a little over $31,000/year

OP, are the rates above ($50/hr or $40/hr) around where you are thinking?

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Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

I'm not OP

So if no one would do it for $60-75/day---what would be enough to make someone do it, because that's what OP is asking.

$150/day (so about $50/hr?) With guaranteed hours, paid holidays, and 2 weeks paid vacation? That would amount to a little over $41,000/year

$120/day ($40/hr) with same benefits above, would be a little over $31,000/year

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Anonymous wrote:OP: should I instead look for an au pair for this job?

Au pairs are not allowed to cook or shop for the family.

Honestly I’ve hired nannies/housekeepers/au pairs going on a decade now and I’ve never heard of one that did shopping and errands for the whole family.

Household manager

Anonymous wrote:OP: should I instead look for an au pair for this job?

An AP isn't allowed to do half of your list

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Anonymous wrote:OP I think the cooking and grocery shopping are not desirable. The rest is doable. I wouldn't want to nanny and THEN be worried that the family I cooked for didn't like the food. Can you do the grocery shopping on the weekends or order instacart?

I actually love to cook and am good at it, but am so over the Sisyphean nature of grocery shopping and how long it takes to shop, load/unload and cook. I will still do some but as a working mom I want the basics covered as it adds at least an hour back into my day.

So this again begs the question of how someone could possibly do all that you are asking in 3 hours/day. If it takes an hour of your day to do this work, what makes you think someone else could do this and everything else you’re asking efficiently and effectively? Again, it doesn’t compute. You should adjust your expectations, make this a full-time job, or look to hire multiple people.

OP: Again, this is not rocket science. Pick kid up from school, bring kid home, cook, supervise while cooking. On days while kid has ECs, pick kid up and take to ECs, grocery shop or run an errand during EC time. Throw in a load of laundry before or after the above. How is this hard? This is my current ice from 3-6 daily and this person does not even need to serve or clear dinner or do dishes. Kid loads & unloads the dishwasher as a chore.

When SAHMs have kids in elementary school there are always “what do you DO all day, you waste of space” responses. But when someone proposes the exact same thing the SAHP parent would apparently do for only 3 hours a day, there’s an outcry that it’s physically impossible and actually requires a FT employee. Make up your minds.

Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

And even if someone were happy to work very part time this is such an inconvenient time slot.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I think the cooking and grocery shopping are not desirable. The rest is doable. I wouldn't want to nanny and THEN be worried that the family I cooked for didn't like the food. Can you do the grocery shopping on the weekends or order instacart?

I actually love to cook and am good at it, but am so over the Sisyphean nature of grocery shopping and how long it takes to shop, load/unload and cook. I will still do some but as a working mom I want the basics covered as it adds at least an hour back into my day.

So this again begs the question of how someone could possibly do all that you are asking in 3 hours/day. If it takes an hour of your day to do this work, what makes you think someone else could do this and everything else you’re asking efficiently and effectively? Again, it doesn’t compute. You should adjust your expectations, make this a full-time job, or look to hire multiple people.

OP: Again, this is not rocket science. Pick kid up from school, bring kid home, cook, supervise while cooking. On days while kid has ECs, pick kid up and take to ECs, grocery shop or run an errand during EC time. Throw in a load of laundry before or after the above. How is this hard? This is my current ice from 3-6 daily and this person does not even need to serve or clear dinner or do dishes. Kid loads & unloads the dishwasher as a chore.

When SAHMs have kids in elementary school there are always “what do you DO all day, you waste of space” responses. But when someone proposes the exact same thing the SAHP parent would apparently do for only 3 hours a day, there’s an outcry that it’s physically impossible and actually requires a FT employee. Make up your minds.

Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

Exactly, even if it were possible (I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s VERY different when it’s your own house and kid) no one would want to do it for what, the $60-75/day and no benefits OP probably wants to offer? I’m just not seeing it.

Anonymous wrote:Every working parent wants a person to fill the job you described, OP. That’s why those people are so hard to find and even harder to keep.

And everyone wants the exact same window of time so they can’t do it for 3 families to get paid full time.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I think the cooking and grocery shopping are not desirable. The rest is doable. I wouldn't want to nanny and THEN be worried that the family I cooked for didn't like the food. Can you do the grocery shopping on the weekends or order instacart?

I actually love to cook and am good at it, but am so over the Sisyphean nature of grocery shopping and how long it takes to shop, load/unload and cook. I will still do some but as a working mom I want the basics covered as it adds at least an hour back into my day.

So this again begs the question of how someone could possibly do all that you are asking in 3 hours/day. If it takes an hour of your day to do this work, what makes you think someone else could do this and everything else you’re asking efficiently and effectively? Again, it doesn’t compute. You should adjust your expectations, make this a full-time job, or look to hire multiple people.

OP: Again, this is not rocket science. Pick kid up from school, bring kid home, cook, supervise while cooking. On days while kid has ECs, pick kid up and take to ECs, grocery shop or run an errand during EC time. Throw in a load of laundry before or after the above. How is this hard? This is my current ice from 3-6 daily and this person does not even need to serve or clear dinner or do dishes. Kid loads & unloads the dishwasher as a chore.

When SAHMs have kids in elementary school there are always “what do you DO all day, you waste of space” responses. But when someone proposes the exact same thing the SAHP parent would apparently do for only 3 hours a day, there’s an outcry that it’s physically impossible and actually requires a FT employee. Make up your minds.

Of course it doesn’t require full time work. But you can’t find someone who will do it for 3 paid hours a day. Both things are very true.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I think the cooking and grocery shopping are not desirable. The rest is doable. I wouldn't want to nanny and THEN be worried that the family I cooked for didn't like the food. Can you do the grocery shopping on the weekends or order instacart?

I actually love to cook and am good at it, but am so over the Sisyphean nature of grocery shopping and how long it takes to shop, load/unload and cook. I will still do some but as a working mom I want the basics covered as it adds at least an hour back into my day.

So this again begs the question of how someone could possibly do all that you are asking in 3 hours/day. If it takes an hour of your day to do this work, what makes you think someone else could do this and everything else you’re asking efficiently and effectively? Again, it doesn’t compute. You should adjust your expectations, make this a full-time job, or look to hire multiple people.

OP: Again, this is not rocket science. Pick kid up from school, bring kid home, cook, supervise while cooking. On days while kid has ECs, pick kid up and take to ECs, grocery shop or run an errand during EC time. Throw in a load of laundry before or after the above. How is this hard? This is my current ice from 3-6 daily and this person does not even need to serve or clear dinner or do dishes. Kid loads & unloads the dishwasher as a chore.

When SAHMs have kids in elementary school there are always “what do you DO all day, you waste of space” responses. But when someone proposes the exact same thing the SAHP parent would apparently do for only 3 hours a day, there’s an outcry that it’s physically impossible and actually requires a FT employee. Make up your minds.