Anonymous
05/27/2021 11:59
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
. This Asian IB mom disagrees that it’s a coded way of saying white. It’s a not so coded way of saying high SES/mostly working at or above grade level because your family is UMC, like more than 80% of residents of the SH catchment area. If DC didn’t want neighborhood schools, it should have ditched them decades ago, like my hometown (San Fran).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Well, when they all say in boundary, that's not really what they are talking about. It's just a coded way of saying white.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 11:57
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:. The IB % is only around a quarter. Unless you think PR is the main problem, that’s all you really need to know. You can make the best of the school, or avoid it. Those are your choices. It’s only going to so good with kids who read 2 or 3 grade levels behind yours in the same science and social studies classes.Anonymous wrote:I have seen many negative threads. The school seems great this year virtually. Is there a lot of differentiation in-person, how are the teachers, are there fights in the school?
IB% doesn’t mean much on the Hill. Brent and Maury students who go to SH are OOB.
I doubt there are many Brent and Maury kids going to SH.
Not many but definitely some
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:47
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:. The IB % is only around a quarter. Unless you think PR is the main problem, that’s all you really need to know. You can make the best of the school, or avoid it. Those are your choices. It’s only going to so good with kids who read 2 or 3 grade levels behind yours in the same science and social studies classes.Anonymous wrote:I have seen many negative threads. The school seems great this year virtually. Is there a lot of differentiation in-person, how are the teachers, are there fights in the school?
IB% doesn’t mean much on the Hill. Brent and Maury students who go to SH are OOB.
Come on, it does when most of the OOB students are coming from Wards 5, 7 and 8. That's been the story at SH since the 1970s. More students still come from outside Ward 6 than in. DCPS focuses on making Deal and Hardy work for IB families, not Hobson. Arghhhh.
Let us be honest. Deal, Hardy and whatever the new middle school in Foxhall/ex-GDS will be called are very inaccessible to families that aren't in-boundary. Hardy was nowhere near full enrollment until IB families started coming in. Foxhall will be even worse. There is just one dinky bus line that is on the chopping block. As far as I can make out, the goal is to make a new school nearly 100% IB to make a new rich Deal-rival. The area it will serve will be nearly all single family upper class homes with nearly zero transit. Nearly all OOB families will require both a car and a pretty rough East-West commute.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:36
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Well, when they all say in boundary, that's not really what they are talking about. It's just a coded way of saying white.
You do know that there are above grade level kids who are not white, right?
DP. Of course, but that's not what PP is saying, and you probably know that. PP speaks the truth - not one of these parents would be talking about PARCC scores at all if the building was white.
DP. It's slightly more complicated than that, although racism does play in. I think PARCC scores do matter in that the school can't be 50%+ failing, like Eliot-Hine. But beyond that, yes, I do think that race plays in when people refuse to acknowledge that SH's PARCC scores are fine and there is a strong cohort of grade level students. (I should note that I think Eliot-Hine could also be fine for some kids; just that it meets my personal "nope" cutoff for PARCC scores.)
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:29
Subject: Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:I've had two kids at Stuart Hobson over the last three years, and I am puzzled by all of the negativity that gets directed at it. It's a lovely school, the principal is great and both of my kids have had good experiences there.
+1
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:27
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Any current parents: The virtual learning experience is similar to how it is in person? (ex: the same amount of class assignments, teachers as nice, we don't really get h.w.)
I think when they were in person they covered more material than they have this year, and gone more in-depth on the material they covered. It's hard for me to compare the amount of homework. Generally when my kids were in person, they had some homework, but not a ton. We've always found the teachers to be nice -- in person and virtually.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:24
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Well, when they all say in boundary, that's not really what they are talking about. It's just a coded way of saying white.
You do know that there are above grade level kids who are not white, right?
DP. Of course, but that's not what PP is saying, and you probably know that. PP speaks the truth - not one of these parents would be talking about PARCC scores at all if the building was white.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:17
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Well, when they all say in boundary, that's not really what they are talking about. It's just a coded way of saying white.
You do know that there are above grade level kids who are not white, right?
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:17
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
I’m in-boundary and the situation you’re describing wouldn’t happen. If the feeder schools were filled with at and above grade level learners, IB families would choose it, which would mean the OOB kids couldn’t get in.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 10:08
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Well, when they all say in boundary, that's not really what they are talking about. It's just a coded way of saying white.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 09:24
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
I'm wondering if parents who are in boundary would still mind a lot out of boundary students attending if they were at grade level or above?
Anonymous
05/27/2021 09:21
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Any current parents: The virtual learning experience is similar to how it is in person? (ex: the same amount of class assignments, teachers as nice, we don't really get h.w.)
Anonymous
05/27/2021 09:19
Subject: Stuart Hobson MS
I've had two kids at Stuart Hobson over the last three years, and I am puzzled by all of the negativity that gets directed at it. It's a lovely school, the principal is great and both of my kids have had good experiences there.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 08:40
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what are they doing at Deal that they are not doing at Stuart Hobson?
Getting all the kids to perform at a much higher level. Look at the PARCC scores. The difference is really huge.
It’s not hard to have more challenging curriculum when your baseline starts at on grade level.
And the Deal kids will be better prepared and do better in high school than the SH kids if they both went to the same high school.
The Deal kids will also have a much higher chance of getting into Walls or top privates in the city. This then translate to better colleges.
I’m sorry but those that just look at middle school as a separate entity don’t get the big picture. Middle school builds the foundation for high school which builds the foundation for college.
Find out the percentage of kids at SH who go onto competitive high schools like Walls or top privates. I bet you it’s single digits. Now look at the same comparison with the Deal kids.
I’m positive the grade level kids at SH do just as well as their peers at Deal. And where does your elitist nonsense end? If Deal is so superior, then a middle school in Bethesda or Fairfax is probably even better. If your standard is that your kid has to be exclusively surrounded by PARCC 4s and 5s there’s nowhere for it to end. And you should have moved to Fairfax or MoCo to get your brilliant yet unstable child into a magnet/AAP program, since they are so easily ruined by the hoi polloi.
These parents are exhausting. We've been happy with SH for our kids and they have gone on to great admissions high schools and haven't been at all behind kids coming from Deal or Hardy.
Anonymous
05/27/2021 08:23
Subject: Re:Stuart Hobson MS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what are they doing at Deal that they are not doing at Stuart Hobson?
Getting all the kids to perform at a much higher level. Look at the PARCC scores. The difference is really huge.
It’s not hard to have more challenging curriculum when your baseline starts at on grade level.
And the Deal kids will be better prepared and do better in high school than the SH kids if they both went to the same high school.
The Deal kids will also have a much higher chance of getting into Walls or top privates in the city. This then translate to better colleges.
I’m sorry but those that just look at middle school as a separate entity don’t get the big picture. Middle school builds the foundation for high school which builds the foundation for college.
Find out the percentage of kids at SH who go onto competitive high schools like Walls or top privates. I bet you it’s single digits. Now look at the same comparison with the Deal kids.
I’m positive the grade level kids at SH do just as well as their peers at Deal. And where does your elitist nonsense end? If Deal is so superior, then a middle school in Bethesda or Fairfax is probably even better. If your standard is that your kid has to be exclusively surrounded by PARCC 4s and 5s there’s nowhere for it to end. And you should have moved to Fairfax or MoCo to get your brilliant yet unstable child into a magnet/AAP program, since they are so easily ruined by the hoi polloi.