Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 22:07     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:Mask requirements should not be lifted unless they are lifted for everyone


+1 because we all know unvaccinated jerks will revel in this.


But the vaccinated aren’t at risk from them, so who cares?


Speak for yourself. Some of us dutifully got vaccinated, but medical researchers are finding that our immune systems did not mount a response. And we still have to work, ride public transportation, go to medical appointments.

It’s unwise to assume the unmasked are all vaccinated, but you can safely assume they don’t care about protecting the immunocompromised if it means they have to suffer a mask for one more second.


Just fyi: no one I know who is excited about not wearing a mask is vaccinated. They don't "believe" in vaccines or masks.


I am. I'm vaccinated. Husband too. Just took my kid for their first shot. I can't wait to not wear a mask. That doesn't mean I will go against any business' requirement to maintain masks, etc. Just that I cannot wait. I am so tired of them. But I know that they will disappear in fits and spurts and not everyone has the same comfort level.


Same- especially as it is about to get HOT.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:57     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

I love wearing a mask: it protects me from pollens and dust that trigger my allergies; I don’t need to put a makeup on my face (I saved a lot of money on cosmetics last year); I can pretend not to recognize people I rather avoid (busybody acquaintances); etc., etc. I will keep wearing a mask as long as I want. Hope people will mind their own business.

Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:54     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:The only question I have is whether vaccinated CDC employees are now required to be back in their offices working indoors full-time unmasked and if not, why not.


oh shut up. At this point, we know that pretty much no one needs to be in their office to do most jobs. I don't care what CDC employees are doing.

I know plenty of people at NIH that have been going in to the office daily and they all seem a bit lighter on their feet and more relaxed. That is enough for me. Some people will never be happy.

I think it is important to know and understand if the CDC is following its own guidance and if not, why not.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:53     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:Mask requirements should not be lifted unless they are lifted for everyone


+1 because we all know unvaccinated jerks will revel in this.


But the vaccinated aren’t at risk from them, so who cares?


Speak for yourself. Some of us dutifully got vaccinated, but medical researchers are finding that our immune systems did not mount a response. And we still have to work, ride public transportation, go to medical appointments.

It’s unwise to assume the unmasked are all vaccinated, but you can safely assume they don’t care about protecting the immunocompromised if it means they have to suffer a mask for one more second.


Just fyi: no one I know who is excited about not wearing a mask is vaccinated. They don't "believe" in vaccines or masks.


I am. I'm vaccinated. Husband too. Just took my kid for their first shot. I can't wait to not wear a mask. That doesn't mean I will go against any business' requirement to maintain masks, etc. Just that I cannot wait. I am so tired of them. But I know that they will disappear in fits and spurts and not everyone has the same comfort level.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:50     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:No more indoor masks in Montgomery County!

https://mocoshow.com/blog/breaking-masks-no-longer-required-indoors-in-montgomery-county-if-you-are-vaccinated/?fbclid=IwAR1yBOdMA6fm57RdRRig8hyJXfWWBBbba9pFpO4VucSuz3IYBHjfrie6-Ro


Does this mean Council itself will go back to work maskless instead of doing all the remote hearings?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:48     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


Oh FFS. Kids under 12 are not at serious risk from COVID! Have your kid wear a mask and move on. If nothing else, that will reduce the viral load of any SARS-CoV2 floating around, and they'll be even less likely to get sick.

-Mom of three kids under 12


I don't get why you put mom to three. Most mom's to three are pretty checked out and stopped caring, like you. Its good you have spare kids just incase one gets/dies of covid but for the rest of us with less kids, its an issue. You can minimize covid but you are why many of us don't feel safe. Mine will not be going anywhere indoors, seeing friends or family or much else because many people lack good judgement and don't care who they put at risk, like you.


Ahh...you see, that's the problem.

You feeling safe, and you being safe, are two entirely different things.

Last year, we were all responsible for each other to be safe. But now, we are safe.

Your neighbors may are not responsible for you FEELING safe. Your irrational feelings are your own problem


Plus One Hundred Billion.

Some people will never "feel" safe again. That does not mean that they are NOT safe. And I "feel" very, very sorry for this PP's kids.


I'm the mom to three and, yeah, I don't hover over my kids or keep them in glass boxes like PP because, newsflash, *that's not good for them*. I put mom to three because that's three kids with different needs and social groups to consider. Our family absolutely prioritizes health and safety - which is why DH and I are fully vaccinated, and why our kids are pros at wearing masks at school/daycare - and we also prioritize SCIENCE and being able to contextualize risk appropriately. I'm not sacrificing my kids' long-term mental health over a disease with a vanishingly small risk to them, but hey, you go for it, PP.

Don't get me started on the "feeling" safe nonsense.


I couldn't have said it any better myself, except I have 2 kids, not 3.

For the longest time, we put the health of the neighbors first.

now that they are vaxxed, we can't reasonably put the "feelings" of our neighbors actually ahead of the wellbeing of our family


Standing and appaulding.

Me too, and raising my glass of rose to you.


+1. Chardonnay.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:48     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:The only question I have is whether vaccinated CDC employees are now required to be back in their offices working indoors full-time unmasked and if not, why not.


oh shut up. At this point, we know that pretty much no one needs to be in their office to do most jobs. I don't care what CDC employees are doing.

I know plenty of people at NIH that have been going in to the office daily and they all seem a bit lighter on their feet and more relaxed. That is enough for me. Some people will never be happy.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:46     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


Oh FFS. Kids under 12 are not at serious risk from COVID! Have your kid wear a mask and move on. If nothing else, that will reduce the viral load of any SARS-CoV2 floating around, and they'll be even less likely to get sick.

-Mom of three kids under 12


I don't get why you put mom to three. Most mom's to three are pretty checked out and stopped caring, like you. Its good you have spare kids just incase one gets/dies of covid but for the rest of us with less kids, its an issue. You can minimize covid but you are why many of us don't feel safe. Mine will not be going anywhere indoors, seeing friends or family or much else because many people lack good judgement and don't care who they put at risk, like you.


Ahh...you see, that's the problem.

You feeling safe, and you being safe, are two entirely different things.

Last year, we were all responsible for each other to be safe. But now, we are safe.

Your neighbors may are not responsible for you FEELING safe. Your irrational feelings are your own problem


Plus One Hundred Billion.

Some people will never "feel" safe again. That does not mean that they are NOT safe. And I "feel" very, very sorry for this PP's kids.


I'm the mom to three and, yeah, I don't hover over my kids or keep them in glass boxes like PP because, newsflash, *that's not good for them*. I put mom to three because that's three kids with different needs and social groups to consider. Our family absolutely prioritizes health and safety - which is why DH and I are fully vaccinated, and why our kids are pros at wearing masks at school/daycare - and we also prioritize SCIENCE and being able to contextualize risk appropriately. I'm not sacrificing my kids' long-term mental health over a disease with a vanishingly small risk to them, but hey, you go for it, PP.

Don't get me started on the "feeling" safe nonsense.


I couldn't have said it any better myself, except I have 2 kids, not 3.

For the longest time, we put the health of the neighbors first.

now that they are vaxxed, we can't reasonably put the "feelings" of our neighbors actually ahead of the wellbeing of our family


Standing and appaulding.

Me too, and raising my glass of rose to you.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:06     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

The only question I have is whether vaccinated CDC employees are now required to be back in their offices working indoors full-time unmasked and if not, why not.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:50     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


It doesn't mean that. It means he has to wear a mask until the 27th. On the 28th he no longer has to wear a mask anywhere anytime unless he wants to or you make him do it. Let's be honest here, MoCo is going to have an extremely high vaccination rate. If you want to wait a few more weeks or until July or so and see what the rates are like by then that makes sense. Aside from that, he's probably going to have herd immunity while in the county. Now if you go to a southern state that's not really true but they weren't wearing masks anyway.

The point of masks is not protection of the wearer so much as protection of everyone else. That’s why surgeons wear them.

Vaccinated people have nothing to fear from unvaccinated people spreading disease. But my kid is unvaccinated because I cannot get it one and therefore the best way to keep it safe is to stay away from indoor areas where COVID could spread.

Yup. Or get them a N95 respirator if you can find one small enough to fit a child’s face with a seal.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:48     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


Oh FFS. Kids under 12 are not at serious risk from COVID! Have your kid wear a mask and move on. If nothing else, that will reduce the viral load of any SARS-CoV2 floating around, and they'll be even less likely to get sick.

-Mom of three kids under 12


I don't get why you put mom to three. Most mom's to three are pretty checked out and stopped caring, like you. Its good you have spare kids just incase one gets/dies of covid but for the rest of us with less kids, its an issue. You can minimize covid but you are why many of us don't feel safe. Mine will not be going anywhere indoors, seeing friends or family or much else because many people lack good judgement and don't care who they put at risk, like you.


Ahh...you see, that's the problem.

You feeling safe, and you being safe, are two entirely different things.

Last year, we were all responsible for each other to be safe. But now, we are safe.

Your neighbors may are not responsible for you FEELING safe. Your irrational feelings are your own problem


Plus One Hundred Billion.

Some people will never "feel" safe again. That does not mean that they are NOT safe. And I "feel" very, very sorry for this PP's kids.


I'm the mom to three and, yeah, I don't hover over my kids or keep them in glass boxes like PP because, newsflash, *that's not good for them*. I put mom to three because that's three kids with different needs and social groups to consider. Our family absolutely prioritizes health and safety - which is why DH and I are fully vaccinated, and why our kids are pros at wearing masks at school/daycare - and we also prioritize SCIENCE and being able to contextualize risk appropriately. I'm not sacrificing my kids' long-term mental health over a disease with a vanishingly small risk to them, but hey, you go for it, PP.

Don't get me started on the "feeling" safe nonsense.


If you are following science you would keep your kids masked and be more careful. You have THREE kids with three different social groups all in school and other activities plus socializing outside of school. That is the problem, not solution. Your kids mental health will not be compromised if they have to cut back during a health pandemic. The issue is you want to dump them on other people and not have to deal with them at home so you don't want to change your lifestyle. It is not a small risk to them. You only care about your health, not your kids or other people. Sad you are teaching your kids those values.


Did you miss the part where I said my kids are pros at wearing masks at schools and daycare? Also, don’t presume to know what my kids do outside of school or what their mental health needs are, because you have literally no clue.

I’m truly sorry you’re struggling as much as you are.

To the other PPs who get it - solidarity. I’m hopeful this order will mean outdoor summer camps can forego masks for kids as long as they’re outside, which ours will be.


I can't tell if that pp is a troll or has a psychological disorder. But I'm sure it's the same person that's been posting for the last year that anyone that values education actually just hates their kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:46     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


It doesn't mean that. It means he has to wear a mask until the 27th. On the 28th he no longer has to wear a mask anywhere anytime unless he wants to or you make him do it. Let's be honest here, MoCo is going to have an extremely high vaccination rate. If you want to wait a few more weeks or until July or so and see what the rates are like by then that makes sense. Aside from that, he's probably going to have herd immunity while in the county. Now if you go to a southern state that's not really true but they weren't wearing masks anyway.

The point of masks is not protection of the wearer so much as protection of everyone else. That’s why surgeons wear them.

Vaccinated people have nothing to fear from unvaccinated people spreading disease. But my kid is unvaccinated because I cannot get it one and therefore the best way to keep it safe is to stay away from indoor areas where COVID could spread.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:24     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid under 12, this means that my kid cannot enter any indoor areas until the vaccine is approved for under 12s. Real sociopathic stuff from the “public health” folks.


Oh FFS. Kids under 12 are not at serious risk from COVID! Have your kid wear a mask and move on. If nothing else, that will reduce the viral load of any SARS-CoV2 floating around, and they'll be even less likely to get sick.

-Mom of three kids under 12


I don't get why you put mom to three. Most mom's to three are pretty checked out and stopped caring, like you. Its good you have spare kids just incase one gets/dies of covid but for the rest of us with less kids, its an issue. You can minimize covid but you are why many of us don't feel safe. Mine will not be going anywhere indoors, seeing friends or family or much else because many people lack good judgement and don't care who they put at risk, like you.


Ahh...you see, that's the problem.

You feeling safe, and you being safe, are two entirely different things.

Last year, we were all responsible for each other to be safe. But now, we are safe.

Your neighbors may are not responsible for you FEELING safe. Your irrational feelings are your own problem


Plus One Hundred Billion.

Some people will never "feel" safe again. That does not mean that they are NOT safe. And I "feel" very, very sorry for this PP's kids.


I'm the mom to three and, yeah, I don't hover over my kids or keep them in glass boxes like PP because, newsflash, *that's not good for them*. I put mom to three because that's three kids with different needs and social groups to consider. Our family absolutely prioritizes health and safety - which is why DH and I are fully vaccinated, and why our kids are pros at wearing masks at school/daycare - and we also prioritize SCIENCE and being able to contextualize risk appropriately. I'm not sacrificing my kids' long-term mental health over a disease with a vanishingly small risk to them, but hey, you go for it, PP.

Don't get me started on the "feeling" safe nonsense.


If you are following science you would keep your kids masked and be more careful. You have THREE kids with three different social groups all in school and other activities plus socializing outside of school. That is the problem, not solution. Your kids mental health will not be compromised if they have to cut back during a health pandemic. The issue is you want to dump them on other people and not have to deal with them at home so you don't want to change your lifestyle. It is not a small risk to them. You only care about your health, not your kids or other people. Sad you are teaching your kids those values.


Did you miss the part where I said my kids are pros at wearing masks at schools and daycare? Also, don’t presume to know what my kids do outside of school or what their mental health needs are, because you have literally no clue.

I’m truly sorry you’re struggling as much as you are.

To the other PPs who get it - solidarity. I’m hopeful this order will mean outdoor summer camps can forego masks for kids as long as they’re outside, which ours will be.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:08     Subject: No more MoCo indoor masks!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mask requirements should not be lifted unless they are lifted for everyone


+1 because we all know unvaccinated jerks will revel in this.


But the vaccinated aren’t at risk from them, so who cares?


Speak for yourself. Some of us dutifully got vaccinated, but medical researchers are finding that our immune systems did not mount a response. And we still have to work, ride public transportation, go to medical appointments.

It’s unwise to assume the unmasked are all vaccinated, but you can safely assume they don’t care about protecting the immunocompromised if it means they have to suffer a mask for one more second.



You need to ask yourself why you want to continue to wallow in misery.


+1. I suppose that being a dour masker has become PP's identity in life.


I take tacrolimus after having an organ transplant. I'll keep wearing masks in public, but I don't expect others to.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:07     Subject: Re:No more MoCo indoor masks!

A lot of people in this area will never feel safe. For context, my family, who work in a hospital, came to visit this past weekend for the first time since March 2020. They are pro mask and helped with vaccine rollout and are getting back to a somewhat normal life. They were FLOORED at the mask wearing outside here in NoVA. They could not believe the number of people leaving their homes walking dogs with masks. In one case we saw a women walking her dog with gloves and a mask. This area is truly an anomaly when you look at the rest of the country and the people suffering the most are our kids.

What frustrates me the most is that with all the goalpost moving, all along was it was "We believe SCIENCE is SCIENCE" and "Trust the science". Now that flip flop Fauci said dont wear masks we no longer trust the science because of irrational fear and anxiety. There were no reported cases in Arlington yesterday.