Anonymous
05/13/2021 09:42
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
If Wakefield has room, isn't the easiest solution to alleviate WL by moving kids there?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? We could also make HB a school within a school at the Heights. The point is that we would make room at Wakefield by expanding the population at the Heights building. My point is HB having its own CAMPUS is what makes it dissimilar to the IB program.
No, you are literally moving the goalposts
The problem with HB is that it is small .... IB is small
The problem with HB is that it isn't available to everyone ..... IB isn't available to everyone
The problem with HB is that it has its own building....
All of the option programs, other than IB (which is a diploma) have their own buildings, except at the middle school level. (And the middle school HB program does not have its own building, either, it shares with high school HB and Shriver.)
Also, the policy has been that option programs don’t get new buildings while HB got a new, and most expensive over the top building and then cry “too crowded” when they should expand to alleviate the other schools.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 09:41
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
If Wakefield has room, isn't the easiest solution to alleviate WL by moving kids there?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? We could also make HB a school within a school at the Heights. The point is that we would make room at Wakefield by expanding the population at the Heights building. My point is HB having its own CAMPUS is what makes it dissimilar to the IB program.
No, you are literally moving the goalposts
The problem with HB is that it is small .... IB is small
The problem with HB is that it isn't available to everyone ..... IB isn't available to everyone
The problem with HB is that it has its own building....
All of the option programs, other than IB (which is a diploma) have their own buildings, except at the middle school level. (And the middle school HB program does not have its own building, either, it shares with high school HB and Shriver.)
My understanding was there is NO LIMIT on IB. If anyone tests in, they are accepted. Is there a hard cap on IB population like at HB?
HB has its own building with a far small population than other schools. And yes, my stance is that ALL option programs should has overcapacity and crowded as the least crowded neighborhood school, thanks for supporting that.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 08:48
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
If Wakefield has room, isn't the easiest solution to alleviate WL by moving kids there?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? We could also make HB a school within a school at the Heights. The point is that we would make room at Wakefield by expanding the population at the Heights building. My point is HB having its own CAMPUS is what makes it dissimilar to the IB program.
No, you are literally moving the goalposts
The problem with HB is that it is small .... IB is small
The problem with HB is that it isn't available to everyone ..... IB isn't available to everyone
The problem with HB is that it has its own building....
All of the option programs, other than IB (which is a diploma) have their own buildings, except at the middle school level. (And the middle school HB program does not have its own building, either, it shares with high school HB and Shriver.)
Anonymous
05/13/2021 08:35
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
If Wakefield has room, isn't the easiest solution to alleviate WL by moving kids there?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? We could also make HB a school within a school at the Heights. The point is that we would make room at Wakefield by expanding the population at the Heights building. My point is HB having its own CAMPUS is what makes it dissimilar to the IB program.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 07:51
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
If Wakefield has room, isn't the easiest solution to alleviate WL by moving kids there?
Anonymous
05/13/2021 07:43
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Actually Wakefield is bigger, so let’s go there. Then we can turn Heights into bigger higher school and alleviate WL.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 07:42
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Capital idea. We should move HB program to Yorktown campus and house it there. School within a school.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 07:35
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Do you go on threads about W-L's IB program to make the same comment?
Anonymous
05/13/2021 06:25
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Ridiculous to throw out a well developed model with high levels of parent and student satisfaction and academic success. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Every kid in Arlington can enter the lottery, there is no application and no testing to get in.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 06:23
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay is this the issue?: HB isn’t taking more resources per student (not talking about the building here), but rather they are taking advantage of their smaller student body, because that small of a student body doesn’t need counselors, so in turn they can have smaller class sizes?
No. Say a high school with 700 students is entitled, per the planning factors, to two counselors because the ratio is 1 counselor per 500 secondary students. HB is a program with the flexibility to allocate those positions to teaching instead of counseling. So instead of having 28 teachers for 700 students (1 per 25 students) they can hire 30 teachers, each of whom is the counselor for 20 students (because the admins and others also do counseling) and now the student-teacher ratio is 23 instead of 25. The students have lower teacher ratios, plus they have a counselor they meet with one period a week in a small group (and available other times) instead of being one of 500 assigned to that counselor. This is ACADEMIC/college counseling, not mental health.
Wut? My sixth grader gets this and it is not college or academic counseling but more toward mental health, talk about current events, things that are going on at the school and in the world. It’s like an old fashioned home room class in the middle of the day, complete with 20 other kids. At this grade it is not college or academic counseling in any way.
Because the middle school curriculum is pretty fixed and the Teacher Advisors are assigned, and also the TAs are grade specific in middle school. They choose their TA for high school and the TA group has students from all four years so they are also getting to talk to kids making decisions about AP classes and college.
Anonymous
05/12/2021 22:02
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay is this the issue?: HB isn’t taking more resources per student (not talking about the building here), but rather they are taking advantage of their smaller student body, because that small of a student body doesn’t need counselors, so in turn they can have smaller class sizes?
No. Say a high school with 700 students is entitled, per the planning factors, to two counselors because the ratio is 1 counselor per 500 secondary students. HB is a program with the flexibility to allocate those positions to teaching instead of counseling. So instead of having 28 teachers for 700 students (1 per 25 students) they can hire 30 teachers, each of whom is the counselor for 20 students (because the admins and others also do counseling) and now the student-teacher ratio is 23 instead of 25. The students have lower teacher ratios, plus they have a counselor they meet with one period a week in a small group (and available other times) instead of being one of 500 assigned to that counselor. This is ACADEMIC/college counseling, not mental health.
Wut? My sixth grader gets this and it is not college or academic counseling but more toward mental health, talk about current events, things that are going on at the school and in the world. It’s like an old fashioned home room class in the middle of the day, complete with 20 other kids. At this grade it is not college or academic counseling in any way.
Anonymous
05/12/2021 21:57
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
This makes no sense. If you want it because it's a good program and desirable, then create more of these types of program so more kids can access them.
Anonymous
05/12/2021 21:33
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
It may not cost more per student, but it is grossly unfair to provide this small-sized model to some students and not to others. Everyone would want this model if they could get it, so why should only the lucky few get this? I say toss it out until everyone can have access.
Anonymous
05/12/2021 19:34
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Anonymous wrote:Okay is this the issue?: HB isn’t taking more resources per student (not talking about the building here), but rather they are taking advantage of their smaller student body, because that small of a student body doesn’t need counselors, so in turn they can have smaller class sizes?
No. Say a high school with 700 students is entitled, per the planning factors, to two counselors because the ratio is 1 counselor per 500 secondary students. HB is a program with the flexibility to allocate those positions to teaching instead of counseling. So instead of having 28 teachers for 700 students (1 per 25 students) they can hire 30 teachers, each of whom is the counselor for 20 students (because the admins and others also do counseling) and now the student-teacher ratio is 23 instead of 25. The students have lower teacher ratios, plus they have a counselor they meet with one period a week in a small group (and available other times) instead of being one of 500 assigned to that counselor. This is ACADEMIC/college counseling, not mental health.
Anonymous
05/12/2021 19:11
Subject: pattern of siblings "winning lottery"at HB Woodlawn
Okay is this the issue?: HB isn’t taking more resources per student (not talking about the building here), but rather they are taking advantage of their smaller student body, because that small of a student body doesn’t need counselors, so in turn they can have smaller class sizes?