Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 06:30     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

To the best of my knowledge, Arlington only gave 48 hours to accept.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 00:06     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

Anonymous wrote:OP here. We did not accept or decline the offer from current top level club. As a result, we've been able to practice 4 other clubs and received 4 offers on the spot for top team placement, including one offer to play up a year on top team. This is a case of a club getting greedy. Had we been allowed the freedom to look about a week and decide, there is a decent chance he would have remained with current club. But, the pressure tactics gave our kid unnecessary stress that he had to decide and that forced him to say, "Just let me go somewhere else then." Note to club admins...if you're the best product, let kids see the grass and determine if it's greener. You're selling a soccer experience - not a used car.


I don’t think it matters to club as much as you think. Hope you found a great place for your kid.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 00:05     Subject: Offer Acceptance Period

Anonymous wrote:I’ll say it so the people in the upper seats hear and quote the coach


Coach here. Dirty little secret; you have more power than you realize. The condensed time is essentially a sales tactic; create urgency. Yes, rosters need to be filled but you are the customer. When it says "48 hours", it's not like it's a law. Take the time to find the right place for your kid, any real coach just wants players to play. We want the players, but most of all we want players playing.


Not how it works at all clubs.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 00:04     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually. [/quote]

You may be vastly oversimplifying what people are thinking. Perhaps the teams are stale and development stagnant, maybe they want some fresh air and faces, losing 1/4 of starting team could be huge, maybe the partnership was fine and people wanted more.

By the way, whats wrong with club hopping? Thats the second time its been portrayed as negative in last couple of days. I cant wait to hear why it’s a bad choice, coach. [/quote]

Cute. Calling me a coach because you don't agree with my opinion.
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Sounds like I called it, though. I definitely don’t agree with your opinion. Why do we have to put up with something we dont see added value in anymore?[/quote]

Dp, then leave. But most people can decide in 48 hours because they have already decided to stay or go.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 21:53     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually. [/quote]

You may be vastly oversimplifying what people are thinking. Perhaps the teams are stale and development stagnant, maybe they want some fresh air and faces, losing 1/4 of starting team could be huge, maybe the partnership was fine and people wanted more.

By the way, whats wrong with club hopping? Thats the second time its been portrayed as negative in last couple of days. I cant wait to hear why it’s a bad choice, coach. [/quote]

Cute. Calling me a coach because you don't agree with my opinion.
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Sounds like I called it, though. I definitely don’t agree with your opinion. Why do we have to put up with something we dont see added value in anymore?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 21:31     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working. you


Losing at least two from the top team is a big deal. Club reputations are not based upon how the 4th team plays. It's the performance of the show ponies that draw other talent into club. A team winning a regional tournament, like this team has done, boosts the club's profile. Departure of top kids means back to average.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 20:43     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually. [/quote]

You may be vastly oversimplifying what people are thinking. Perhaps the teams are stale and development stagnant, maybe they want some fresh air and faces, losing 1/4 of starting team could be huge, maybe the partnership was fine and people wanted more.

By the way, whats wrong with club hopping? Thats the second time its been portrayed as negative in last couple of days. I cant wait to hear why it’s a bad choice, coach. [/quote]

Cute. Calling me a coach because you don't agree with my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 20:39     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually. [/quote]

You may be vastly oversimplifying what people are thinking. Perhaps the teams are stale and development stagnant, maybe they want some fresh air and faces, losing 1/4 of starting team could be huge, maybe the partnership was fine and people wanted more.

By the way, whats wrong with club hopping? Thats the second time its been portrayed as negative in last couple of days. I cant wait to hear why it’s a bad choice, coach.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 19:58     Subject: Offer Acceptance Period

Anonymous wrote:Where at? Would be good to know the clubs doing this!


Not the OP, but I believe it's Vienna. They are notorious for this, and their top kids go elsewhere around age 11/12.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 19:56     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

My child jumping was the best thing ever. Never stay with a club if you have the opportunity to advance.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 19:22     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually. [/quote]

Some clubs have different, usually more advanced opportunities at the older ages. TBH, if your kid is 8-10, you are best to go with your local club. If your son/daughter is showing they are serious about soccer (and you know by 11-12 which kids have potential), there are certain programs who have ECNL, MLS Next, etc to truly challenge a youth. If the kid is not considering high school / college soccer, not worth it. For those who are, worth the extra 15 minute drive in many peoples' views - especially when you're already dedicating 6-8 hours a week as it is - what's another hour of total weekly drive time? The clubs that are well known for producing talent are Bethesda and Alexandria.
Also, not everyone loves their coach and if they are getting the coach for another year, they may want a change of scenery. Finally, playing different styles allows the kid to grow as a player. Same system has same habits - good and bad.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 18:39     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more. [/quote]

I don't get this mentality. Why are all these top team players trying out at multiple clubs anyway? Someone previously said every year they call and do practice tryouts in advance of real tryouts.

If 2 or more of your top 5 players are not happy and are trying out elsewhere, then it's not a huge loss. Sounds like the partnership wasn't working anyway.

Weird that multiple top players are continually fishing around. Is it the grass is always greener mentality? I can see one or two moves between littles and highschool. At some point you should research, pick somewhere and stay. Changing clubs is not like a yearly flu shot that should be repeated annually.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 18:28     Subject: Offer Acceptance Period

Where at? Would be good to know the clubs doing this!
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 18:21     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

[quote=Anonymous]If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days. [/quote]

Not the case at all. Maybe that works where you are. They gave all kids on the top team 48 hours to decide. As a result, they are losing two of their top five players for sure, and likely more.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2021 17:48     Subject: Re:Offer Acceptance Period

If you are a top 10 player they will allow for extra time. Normally they have already verbally talked with the families long before tryouts. If you or your kid is on the bubble of deciding the best team they will give you 2 weeks. They may also ask for a conference to understand the issue. IF you are new or not the top you normally have 48 hours and some clubs 5 days.