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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, people. This is kid soccer. Get a life. In all likelihood, your kid will graduate from high school and never play competitively again. You will have wasted years of your life on this forum rehashing petty grievances that will mean nothing in the end. And no matter what you tell yourselves, this isn't good for your kids. You are doing this for YOU.

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Most of the people on this forum will have kids play in college. Look at the GA and enclosed stats for this area....on average of the kids play in college.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, people. This is kid soccer. Get a life. In all likelihood, your kid will graduate from high school and never play competitively again. You will have wasted years of your life on this forum rehashing petty grievances that will mean nothing in the end. And no matter what you tell yourselves, this isn't good for your kids. You are doing this for YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

That’s not it. Don’t worry about winning if players are developing, learning, growing. My favorite seasons are the 4-6-2 type of seasons, with a couple of butt kickings mixed in. Enough wins to not be demoralized, but plenty of opportunities to see where improvement is needed.

Losing mentality is becoming common place.

Losing is not developing. That’s a BS lie told to non-competitive parents.

Soccer parents seem to buy this line more than anyone else.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, which clubs do your kids play for, club hopper?

You seem defensive. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it? Oh well....

And for the record, I know exactly what I’m talking about.

Losing is not developing.

Nor does winning when only half of the team players participated or when you bring guest players. Dirty dirty dirty practices.

I’m not talking about winning at all cost. I’m talking about losing as it’s part of a development plan.

You will some you lose some. Your post makes it sound like folks prefer losing as part of development, like purposely coaching to lose. You sound ignorant. Rotating players at younger ages, letting kids play through mistakes to see how they respond etc is more important even if it results in a loss than just winning to win. You didn’t say winning at all costs but you didn’t have to—it’s implied even if you say it’s not. Of course coaches and players want to win.

This "losing for development" stuff is largely BS. Yes - a really good coach will indeed encourage kids to play through mistakes and lose some games as the kids develop. But it shouldn't go on for a whole season or more. The devlopment should mean that the team is performing at a higher level by mid-season than it otherwise would have done. If you're still "losing in order to develop" at the end of the season either the coach isn't all that good or the players are just overmatched.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, people. This is kid soccer. Get a life. In all likelihood, your kid will graduate from high school and never play competitively again. You will have wasted years of your life on this forum rehashing petty grievances that will mean nothing in the end. And no matter what you tell yourselves, this isn't good for your kids. You are doing this for YOU.

Even so, Loudoun is a horrible, unethical club with poor coaching and high prices.

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

meh. nothing angers me more than a coach who hides behind the policy of talking to players only to avoid a difficult subject with a parent. This is a service industry in which the parents are the customers, not the players. Too often coaches do not have enough respect for parents. I agree that parents should not go off half cocked, and these few bad cases are very likely coloring the picture of all parents as lunatics, but coaches need to man up as well.
With regard to posts on DCUM, nobody, including coaches should take anything on here seriously. This forum is not real life, so coach ... lighten up.

You have a point. Too many coaches automatically take a militant attitude with parents. Fair enough. But, coaches don't flock here to issue half-cocked innuendos assassinating parents. If we did, we may run out of space. I once kicked a kid off my team in the middle of a game. The player had been warned and warned but exhibited a poor attitude and, when I took him or her off the field, he or she threw a temper tantrum. I told the player (17) to pick up their bag and hit the road. It was incredibly gratifying, but not as gratifying as dealing with the parents when they called to complain that I had sent their little brat packing. They said to me "You are supposed to be the adult" to which I responded "Well, so are you, and you raised a little monster. Get it together before that kid ends up in jail". I refused to give them their money back as I had put the kid on a behavior contract and clearly outlined the expectations. All of a sudden, my name started getting trashed on the old forum. Pretty hard to figure out who it was huh? Oh, and the kid did end up in jail. I tried to tell them. Oh, and the rest of the players and the rest of the parents loved me for doing it

You have one example of a bad apple. We have thousands of examples of terrible coaching and money management and abusive tactics. Read thru the forum.

Abusive tactics. Did you leave right away? Seems like that would be the responsible thing to do.. Thousands of examples... please. This is a select group of loudmouth accentuated by the occasional irate Karen. At least, that is the makeup of the coach and childbashers. There are also good threads here

I would bet that 99% of these posts are by men not women. And now you can count yourself as one.

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

That’s not it. Don’t worry about winning if players are developing, learning, growing. My favorite seasons are the 4-6-2 type of seasons, with a couple of butt kickings mixed in. Enough wins to not be demoralized, but plenty of opportunities to see where improvement is needed.

Losing mentality is becoming common place.

Losing is not developing. That’s a BS lie told to non-competitive parents.

Soccer parents seem to buy this line more than anyone else.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, which clubs do your kids play for, club hopper?

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

That’s not it. Don’t worry about winning if players are developing, learning, growing. My favorite seasons are the 4-6-2 type of seasons, with a couple of butt kickings mixed in. Enough wins to not be demoralized, but plenty of opportunities to see where improvement is needed.

Losing mentality is becoming common place.

Losing is not developing. That’s a BS lie told to non-competitive parents.

Soccer parents seem to buy this line more than anyone else.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, which clubs do your kids play for, club hopper?

You seem defensive. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it? Oh well....

And for the record, I know exactly what I’m talking about.

Losing is not developing.

Nor does winning when only half of the team players participated or when you bring guest players. Dirty dirty dirty practices.

I’m not talking about winning at all cost. I’m talking about losing as it’s part of a development plan.

You will some you lose some. Your post makes it sound like folks prefer losing as part of development, like purposely coaching to lose. You sound ignorant. Rotating players at younger ages, letting kids play through mistakes to see how they respond etc is more important even if it results in a loss than just winning to win. You didn’t say winning at all costs but you didn’t have to—it’s implied even if you say it’s not. Of course coaches and players want to win.

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

That’s not it. Don’t worry about winning if players are developing, learning, growing. My favorite seasons are the 4-6-2 type of seasons, with a couple of butt kickings mixed in. Enough wins to not be demoralized, but plenty of opportunities to see where improvement is needed.

Losing mentality is becoming common place.

Losing is not developing. That’s a BS lie told to non-competitive parents.

Soccer parents seem to buy this line more than anyone else.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, which clubs do your kids play for, club hopper?

You seem defensive. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it? Oh well....

And for the record, I know exactly what I’m talking about.

Losing is not developing.

Nor does winning when only half of the team players participated or when you bring guest players. Dirty dirty dirty practices.

I’m not talking about winning at all cost. I’m talking about losing as it’s part of a development plan.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, people. This is kid soccer. Get a life. In all likelihood, your kid will graduate from high school and never play competitively again. You will have wasted years of your life on this forum rehashing petty grievances that will mean nothing in the end. And no matter what you tell yourselves, this isn't good for your kids. You are doing this for YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:you cant win with no team. you have to talk to people to have people on team.

The coach does not care about development of THE PLAYER even when they win all games when only 11 players get to play and the rest are spectators. The coach even invites guest players (older kids). It seems that the 12-20 player’s only purpose with the team is to meet the TD/ED salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:The only allegiance I want my coach to have is to winning.

I prefer a coach who despise talking to parents. All parents. No favorites. No politics.

Winning. That’s it

That’s not it. Don’t worry about winning if players are developing, learning, growing. My favorite seasons are the 4-6-2 type of seasons, with a couple of butt kickings mixed in. Enough wins to not be demoralized, but plenty of opportunities to see where improvement is needed.

Losing mentality is becoming common place.

Losing is not developing. That’s a BS lie told to non-competitive parents.

Soccer parents seem to buy this line more than anyone else.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, which clubs do your kids play for, club hopper?

You seem defensive. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it? Oh well....

And for the record, I know exactly what I’m talking about.

Losing is not developing.

Nor does winning when only half of the team players participated or when you bring guest players. Dirty dirty dirty practices.