Anonymous wrote:What the heck are bunches? Pigtails = two loose ended ponytails (New Yorker). Have literally never heard terms like bunches.

bunches of hair that are secured on one end with an elastic and loose all the way down/not braided = ponytails

braids = pigtails

This turned kind of weird (and interesting.) I've lived in OR, CA, MN, IL, NY, PA. and MD. To me, pigtails = two ponytails. You can have braids or braided ponytails or braided pigtails, but just "pigtails" by itself has never implied braided.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

Wrong.
Pigtail:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pigtail

Definition of pigtail
1 : tobacco in small twisted strands or rolls
2 : a lock of hair that has been gathered and banded or braided together at the back or side of the head

The one person on this thread who disagrees with that definition will never let it go, though.

Basically this says that BOTH definitions are correct; it doesn’t support either side. I truly think it’s a UK-US divide.

I do pigtails when my two year old is a little calmer and sitting still in the morning. How do I learn how to french braid??

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

This is a US board; so no, I’m not listening to this British bosh. Go back across the pond if you want to natter on about bunches and plaits.

I am not the other poster. I am not British. I wrote this for a US audience, PP.

Stop with the racism and understand that pigtails can have two meanings, and that the more widely accepted one is braided. Look it up if you don't believe me. It's disturbing you're so emotionally invested in your denial of a word definition!

Please quote the “racism” in this thread. Unless you are referring to the US-British divide, which isn’t racism.

What the heck are bunches? Pigtails = two loose ended ponytails (New Yorker). Have literally never heard terms like bunches.

Wow, I never heard of pigtails as being necessarily braided. Nor did I expect people to be this upset about it.

I grew up/lived in various places around the US, as did my mother. Pigtails = two “bunches” of hair, one on each side. Ponytail = one bunch in the middle. Braid = one braid, and braids = two braids, one on each side.

I figured the term pigtail was because it was thinner and typically shorter and could, with the right hair texture, be one big corkscrew.

Anyway. When my curly hair daughter was under 5 I LOVED her in pigtails. They were nearer than a pony, looked adorable, and faster than braid(s). In first grade I did two braids, because we had a lice scare (and I also loved this look, but I’m half Indian and that’s an old school, typical hairstyle) and then now in COVID times, I no longer care.

Most kids probably won’t sit for them to be put in. My kids hated them but recently my 7 year old has been asking for them more because some of her friends have been wearing them. I am also referring to two ponytails as pigtails. We just call it 2 braids if we’re braiding.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

This is a US board; so no, I’m not listening to this British bosh. Go back across the pond if you want to natter on about bunches and plaits.

I am not the other poster. I am not British. I wrote this for a US audience, PP.

Stop with the racism and understand that pigtails can have two meanings, and that the more widely accepted one is braided. Look it up if you don't believe me. It's disturbing you're so emotionally invested in your denial of a word definition!

It has been looked up and definition provided. Maybe time to say that today you learned something new and your commonly held belief was not correct.

Anonymous wrote:This is op. When I mention pigtails in my post, I refer to two ponytails, one on each side. She does not have enough hair to do braids, and I had no idea that some people call 2 braids as pigtails.

Now you know

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

This is a US board; so no, I’m not listening to this British bosh. Go back across the pond if you want to natter on about bunches and plaits.

I am not the other poster. I am not British. I wrote this for a US audience, PP.

Stop with the racism and understand that pigtails can have two meanings, and that the more widely accepted one is braided. Look it up if you don't believe me. It's disturbing you're so emotionally invested in your denial of a word definition!

This is op. When I mention pigtails in my post, I refer to two ponytails, one on each side. She does not have enough hair to do braids, and I had no idea that some people call 2 braids as pigtails.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

Wrong.
Pigtail:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pigtail

Definition of pigtail
1 : tobacco in small twisted strands or rolls
2 : a lock of hair that has been gathered and banded or braided together at the back or side of the head

The one person on this thread who disagrees with that definition will never let it go, though.

I say pigtails for 2 braids or 2 ponytails, but “officially” I’ve always known pigtails to refer to braids.

Anonymous wrote:
Stop arguing and accept that pigtails mean unbraided or braided to different people.

This is well-documented. If pressed, I'd say the original term meant BRAIDED, because it's the same as British plaits, which are braided.

Usually:
Bunches = a pair of ponytails.
One bunch = one ponytail.
Pigtails = plaits = two braids framing the face.

This is a US board; so no, I’m not listening to this British bosh. Go back across the pond if you want to natter on about bunches and plaits.