Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
If “chilling in paradise” means innocent people that think differently from me means they suffer in eternal hell, then yeah, atoms or reincarnation please.
I actually love my fellow humans, I don’t just say it to make me feel good then wish them well in hell.
Join me, plenty of room in Paradise. I will be the one petting the lion. After I help Jesus harvest some grapes from the vineyard, that is.
In your dreams
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
If “chilling in paradise” means innocent people that think differently from me means they suffer in eternal hell, then yeah, atoms or reincarnation please.
I actually love my fellow humans, I don’t just say it to make me feel good then wish them well in hell.
Join me, plenty of room in Paradise. I will be the one petting the lion. After I help Jesus harvest some grapes from the vineyard, that is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
It's not a matter of preference -- it's about biology. Humans have no problem thinking that plants and other animals (except, maybe for pets) disappear into nothingness, but some humans like to think that they will not.
Because humans have souls. Plants don’t have souls and neither do animals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
You say that like you are certain we don’t get to choose.
No, I do not. I am certain there is no evidence we get to choose. Hopefully you understand the difference.
I choose to spend eternity in paradise, with my Creator. So I just chose. You are wrong.
So whatever we "choose" gets to happen? Well, then I choose for you to spend eternity riding backwards on a donkey through a beanfield on a rainy day.
Hey this is fun!
Awww, you are getting closer, sort of. You don’t get to choose for other people. You don’t have dominion over your fellow human’s bodies or souls, or their fate. That is a fairly simple concept and it’s disturbing you don’t know that, and you feel you can choose for other people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People already know about your religion and aren’t interested.
You’re ‘Good News’ sharing is to make YOU feel good.
“Sooner would a camel go through the eye of a needle than a rich person go to heaven.”
I do tell wealthy evangelicals that, but they’ve made up some lies to deny the literal Bible text. It’s sad to watch them vote to help the wealthy — vote for the GOP, the party of billionaires— as they themselves sin. Jesus gave us this word.
Let me guess. You can't read Latin or Ancient/New Testament Greek, let alone Hebrew or Aramaic, right? You're a just-read-it-in-English type of person who thinks that it is possible to accurately translate the the specifics of ancient texts written in other languages and cultures into your basic, straggling contemporary English?
Lol.
So people need to be able to speak AND read Latin, Ancient/NT Greek, Hebrew AND Aramaic, to speak about salvation and the Bible?
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
You say that like you are certain we don’t get to choose.
No, I do not. I am certain there is no evidence we get to choose. Hopefully you understand the difference.
I choose to spend eternity in paradise, with my Creator. So I just chose. You are wrong.
So whatever we "choose" gets to happen? Well, then I choose for you to spend eternity riding backwards on a donkey through a beanfield on a rainy day.
Hey this is fun!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
If “chilling in paradise” means innocent people that think differently from me means they suffer in eternal hell, then yeah, atoms or reincarnation please.
I actually love my fellow humans, I don’t just say it to make me feel good then wish them well in hell.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
You say that like you are certain we don’t get to choose.
No, I do not. I am certain there is no evidence we get to choose. Hopefully you understand the difference.
I choose to spend eternity in paradise, with my Creator. So I just chose. You are wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
If “chilling in paradise” means innocent people that think differently from me means they suffer in eternal hell, then yeah, atoms or reincarnation please.
I actually love my fellow humans, I don’t just say it to make me feel good then wish them well in hell.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.
Yeah, definitely preferred.
So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
You say that like you are certain we don’t get to choose.
No, I do not. I am certain there is no evidence we get to choose. Hopefully you understand the difference.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
You say that like you are certain we don’t get to choose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
You say that like we get to choose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Love this.
If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.
Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.
What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?
At least we agree with your last point.
We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.
The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.
Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?
I loved the irony.
I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?