Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 10:34     Subject: Re:If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Duran needs to actually show data that APS doesn't have room to bring back K-2 for 4 days a week. Ask each principal to indicate how many classes could be brought back without catastrophic changes. Make a table. Show that APS has actually looked into what can or can't be done. Stop with the hand waving.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 06:42     Subject: Re:If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
lpstout wrote:Valuable WaPo article today on what Fairfax is doing this spring to be ready for school in August--note especially the intensive outreach to families and purchases they’re making now to ensure they’ll have the physical capacity they’ll need. Arlington needs to do the same, and before the School Board approves a budget on May 6. https://wapo.st/3sJXM9g


Any time you see a news article about FCPS, assume it's wildly overstated. They love getting good press and hate doing hard work. They also made it sound like they were bringing back most in-person kids 4 days a week and then parents had to flood admin with emails to get them to actually do it, and even then some schools that could chose not to.


FCPS empowered the principals to make it happen instead of taking a monolithic approach that would prevent anything from happening. My two ES kids were both immediately invited back to 4-days per week. The teachers teach from the smart boards so they don't open their laptops for instruction, they use worksheets, they play at recess, they do activities during PE, they say school is so much better now getting to directly interact with the teacher all day, etc. For at least one quarter, school is essentially back to normal.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 11:28     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At risk kids or South Arlington - yes.

Whiny parents in the far north elementaries, no.


UMMMM.. seriously? talk about discriminating. this sounds like a very "equitable" approach, loser.


You are really winning hearts and minds. Thanks for taking time away from APE to visit us, though.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 10:31     Subject: Re:If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

lpstout wrote:Valuable WaPo article today on what Fairfax is doing this spring to be ready for school in August--note especially the intensive outreach to families and purchases they’re making now to ensure they’ll have the physical capacity they’ll need. Arlington needs to do the same, and before the School Board approves a budget on May 6. https://wapo.st/3sJXM9g


Any time you see a news article about FCPS, assume it's wildly overstated. They love getting good press and hate doing hard work. They also made it sound like they were bringing back most in-person kids 4 days a week and then parents had to flood admin with emails to get them to actually do it, and even then some schools that could chose not to.
lpstout
Post 04/22/2021 10:07     Subject: Re:If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Valuable WaPo article today on what Fairfax is doing this spring to be ready for school in August--note especially the intensive outreach to families and purchases they’re making now to ensure they’ll have the physical capacity they’ll need. Arlington needs to do the same, and before the School Board approves a budget on May 6. https://wapo.st/3sJXM9g
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2021 10:17     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've heard that the rumor is that the distancing will be abandoned in the fall. This was derived from a conversation with a PTA leadership member discussing how APS will handle next fall and that in option programs they are likely to be at capacity given the lack of guarantee to maintain your spot. I asked how the issue of spacing would be handled and the response was that APS is likely to abandon the 3ft in order to accommodate all in the fall. I said that would mean this entire year was basically endured for nothing if it will be abandoned in the end as though it is actually without merit. I think we are beyond reason and rationale in APS. If those were driving the decisions, we would have moved to 4 or 5 days a week of in person school. Saying it's too hard when FCPS, which is the largest system in VA is doing it, literally does not add up in any way, shape, or form. So, we are just at the mercy of Duran I guess. I've never been one to call for his firing, etc., but, his apparent comfort with driving things in to the ground and leaning in hard to a very difficult to defend position is beyond comprehension for me.


A potential decision to abandon spacing in the fall (when COVID community numbers will likely be even lower) does not mean spacing is not appropriate now. I would expect CDC to revise guidelines for fall too. Before fall at least age 12+ should be vaccine eligible (and maybe even lower) so I would think high schools can be back to near normal. Lower grades is TBD.


This isn't a rumor- it's on the APS website already in the FAQ about planning for fall- the plan is no distancing but perhaps other mitigation strategies (masks.) Duran is banking on numbers being low enough in the fall that the CDC removes the distancing recommendations entirely. They are coming up with a 3 foot contingency plan as well. Right now the rec is still 3 feet and that's what he's following.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2021 09:50     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:I've heard that the rumor is that the distancing will be abandoned in the fall. This was derived from a conversation with a PTA leadership member discussing how APS will handle next fall and that in option programs they are likely to be at capacity given the lack of guarantee to maintain your spot. I asked how the issue of spacing would be handled and the response was that APS is likely to abandon the 3ft in order to accommodate all in the fall. I said that would mean this entire year was basically endured for nothing if it will be abandoned in the end as though it is actually without merit. I think we are beyond reason and rationale in APS. If those were driving the decisions, we would have moved to 4 or 5 days a week of in person school. Saying it's too hard when FCPS, which is the largest system in VA is doing it, literally does not add up in any way, shape, or form. So, we are just at the mercy of Duran I guess. I've never been one to call for his firing, etc., but, his apparent comfort with driving things in to the ground and leaning in hard to a very difficult to defend position is beyond comprehension for me.


A potential decision to abandon spacing in the fall (when COVID community numbers will likely be even lower) does not mean spacing is not appropriate now. I would expect CDC to revise guidelines for fall too. Before fall at least age 12+ should be vaccine eligible (and maybe even lower) so I would think high schools can be back to near normal. Lower grades is TBD.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 21:05     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our school said in our PTA meeting that four days a week was out of their hands and was a decision of the school board/Duran. They indicated they’re testing out having all the kids in the same classroom 3 feet apart (where possible), moving furniture out, etc because kids really do learn better the more they are together and in school. If they find they aren’t able to do small groups or other important learning activities with so many children in the classroom they will go back to the two separate classroom. I was actually encouraged by this conversation because it was clear that learning opportunities in school were a priority, no matter what school board is doing.


I think a lot of ES principals are quietly grumbling about what Duran and Loft are doing, but it is hard for them to speak up because Duran is their boss. For ES, they should just space the desks as far apart as feasible (even if they can only get 2ft instead of 3ft) and then let parents decide whether they are comfortable with the arrangement. The risk of COVID spread is so low in that age group, especially with teachers vaccinated.


I've heard that the rumor is that the distancing will be abandoned in the fall. This was derived from a conversation with a PTA leadership member discussing how APS will handle next fall and that in option programs they are likely to be at capacity given the lack of guarantee to maintain your spot. I asked how the issue of spacing would be handled and the response was that APS is likely to abandon the 3ft in order to accommodate all in the fall. I said that would mean this entire year was basically endured for nothing if it will be abandoned in the end as though it is actually without merit. I think we are beyond reason and rationale in APS. If those were driving the decisions, we would have moved to 4 or 5 days a week of in person school. Saying it's too hard when FCPS, which is the largest system in VA is doing it, literally does not add up in any way, shape, or form. So, we are just at the mercy of Duran I guess. I've never been one to call for his firing, etc., but, his apparent comfort with driving things in to the ground and leaning in hard to a very difficult to defend position is beyond comprehension for me.


I think AEM's collective head would explode if this happened. I would love to see it!


Isn't this basically what the email today said anyhow? They will accommodate distance "to the extent feasible." This is basically what a lot of other school districts did in September last fall and have been open all year.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 18:25     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our school said in our PTA meeting that four days a week was out of their hands and was a decision of the school board/Duran. They indicated they’re testing out having all the kids in the same classroom 3 feet apart (where possible), moving furniture out, etc because kids really do learn better the more they are together and in school. If they find they aren’t able to do small groups or other important learning activities with so many children in the classroom they will go back to the two separate classroom. I was actually encouraged by this conversation because it was clear that learning opportunities in school were a priority, no matter what school board is doing.


I think a lot of ES principals are quietly grumbling about what Duran and Loft are doing, but it is hard for them to speak up because Duran is their boss. For ES, they should just space the desks as far apart as feasible (even if they can only get 2ft instead of 3ft) and then let parents decide whether they are comfortable with the arrangement. The risk of COVID spread is so low in that age group, especially with teachers vaccinated.


I've heard that the rumor is that the distancing will be abandoned in the fall. This was derived from a conversation with a PTA leadership member discussing how APS will handle next fall and that in option programs they are likely to be at capacity given the lack of guarantee to maintain your spot. I asked how the issue of spacing would be handled and the response was that APS is likely to abandon the 3ft in order to accommodate all in the fall. I said that would mean this entire year was basically endured for nothing if it will be abandoned in the end as though it is actually without merit. I think we are beyond reason and rationale in APS. If those were driving the decisions, we would have moved to 4 or 5 days a week of in person school. Saying it's too hard when FCPS, which is the largest system in VA is doing it, literally does not add up in any way, shape, or form. So, we are just at the mercy of Duran I guess. I've never been one to call for his firing, etc., but, his apparent comfort with driving things in to the ground and leaning in hard to a very difficult to defend position is beyond comprehension for me.


I think AEM's collective head would explode if this happened. I would love to see it!
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 16:56     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our school said in our PTA meeting that four days a week was out of their hands and was a decision of the school board/Duran. They indicated they’re testing out having all the kids in the same classroom 3 feet apart (where possible), moving furniture out, etc because kids really do learn better the more they are together and in school. If they find they aren’t able to do small groups or other important learning activities with so many children in the classroom they will go back to the two separate classroom. I was actually encouraged by this conversation because it was clear that learning opportunities in school were a priority, no matter what school board is doing.


I think a lot of ES principals are quietly grumbling about what Duran and Loft are doing, but it is hard for them to speak up because Duran is their boss. For ES, they should just space the desks as far apart as feasible (even if they can only get 2ft instead of 3ft) and then let parents decide whether they are comfortable with the arrangement. The risk of COVID spread is so low in that age group, especially with teachers vaccinated.


I've heard that the rumor is that the distancing will be abandoned in the fall. This was derived from a conversation with a PTA leadership member discussing how APS will handle next fall and that in option programs they are likely to be at capacity given the lack of guarantee to maintain your spot. I asked how the issue of spacing would be handled and the response was that APS is likely to abandon the 3ft in order to accommodate all in the fall. I said that would mean this entire year was basically endured for nothing if it will be abandoned in the end as though it is actually without merit. I think we are beyond reason and rationale in APS. If those were driving the decisions, we would have moved to 4 or 5 days a week of in person school. Saying it's too hard when FCPS, which is the largest system in VA is doing it, literally does not add up in any way, shape, or form. So, we are just at the mercy of Duran I guess. I've never been one to call for his firing, etc., but, his apparent comfort with driving things in to the ground and leaning in hard to a very difficult to defend position is beyond comprehension for me.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 16:38     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:Our school said in our PTA meeting that four days a week was out of their hands and was a decision of the school board/Duran. They indicated they’re testing out having all the kids in the same classroom 3 feet apart (where possible), moving furniture out, etc because kids really do learn better the more they are together and in school. If they find they aren’t able to do small groups or other important learning activities with so many children in the classroom they will go back to the two separate classroom. I was actually encouraged by this conversation because it was clear that learning opportunities in school were a priority, no matter what school board is doing.


I think a lot of ES principals are quietly grumbling about what Duran and Loft are doing, but it is hard for them to speak up because Duran is their boss. For ES, they should just space the desks as far apart as feasible (even if they can only get 2ft instead of 3ft) and then let parents decide whether they are comfortable with the arrangement. The risk of COVID spread is so low in that age group, especially with teachers vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 10:28     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, all schools that have the ability and capacity to add more students more days/week should be doing this. Enough with the equity already. My 3rd graders entire class that opted for hybrid is there on the same days. So basically the class is empty 3 days/week. It's ridiculous.


Are you sure the class is empty? My classroom is used by another grade level the other 2 days per week when my class is not there. The classrooms we typically use were not large enough to hold all 17 of us on the hybrid days at one time. You probably don’t know since you haven’t been in the building this year.


NP, I know my daughter's second grade classroom sits empty three days a week. Moving to 4 days a week would be very simple.


Bits is too logistically challenging for the bozos running APS.


These are the situations in FCPS (and we had some too) that led us freaking out to the administration and school board and getting it done. It required a lot of parent pressure.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 09:26     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, all schools that have the ability and capacity to add more students more days/week should be doing this. Enough with the equity already. My 3rd graders entire class that opted for hybrid is there on the same days. So basically the class is empty 3 days/week. It's ridiculous.


Are you sure the class is empty? My classroom is used by another grade level the other 2 days per week when my class is not there. The classrooms we typically use were not large enough to hold all 17 of us on the hybrid days at one time. You probably don’t know since you haven’t been in the building this year.


NP, I know my daughter's second grade classroom sits empty three days a week. Moving to 4 days a week would be very simple.


Bits is too logistically challenging for the bozos running APS.


Duran needs a swift kick in the A$% and I hope the door does hit him on the way out.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 08:55     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, all schools that have the ability and capacity to add more students more days/week should be doing this. Enough with the equity already. My 3rd graders entire class that opted for hybrid is there on the same days. So basically the class is empty 3 days/week. It's ridiculous.


Are you sure the class is empty? My classroom is used by another grade level the other 2 days per week when my class is not there. The classrooms we typically use were not large enough to hold all 17 of us on the hybrid days at one time. You probably don’t know since you haven’t been in the building this year.


NP, I know my daughter's second grade classroom sits empty three days a week. Moving to 4 days a week would be very simple.


Bits is too logistically challenging for the bozos running APS.


* But it's
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2021 08:51     Subject: If APS could send some schools back 4 days and not others, should it do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, all schools that have the ability and capacity to add more students more days/week should be doing this. Enough with the equity already. My 3rd graders entire class that opted for hybrid is there on the same days. So basically the class is empty 3 days/week. It's ridiculous.


Are you sure the class is empty? My classroom is used by another grade level the other 2 days per week when my class is not there. The classrooms we typically use were not large enough to hold all 17 of us on the hybrid days at one time. You probably don’t know since you haven’t been in the building this year.


NP, I know my daughter's second grade classroom sits empty three days a week. Moving to 4 days a week would be very simple.


Bits is too logistically challenging for the bozos running APS.