Garden Phlox
Lobelia Cardinalis
Coneflowers
Bee Balm
Blackeyed Susan
Milkweed (swamp and common)

All hardy, spread, and attract/support pollinators.

Salvia black and bloom. https://www.ballfloraplant.com/series_info.aspx?phid=055000677032996

Dianthus

Liatris

Parsley - it's a host plant for swallowtail butterflies.

Right, shrubs are woody perennials - most people don’t call them that I guess? All shrubs are perennial, but when you are at a garden center and they divide their plants into sections, the shrubs get their own section apart from the perennials.

No one really cares except for that one previous poster though.

I think you should keep calling it a perennial but I don’t think it will make you happy.

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Anonymous wrote:Hydrangeas

Hydrangea doesn’t belong to the perennials club.

Huh? My hydrangeas are shrubs that get bigger every year. How is this not a perennial??

It’s a shrub.

Could you give us a decent link that indicates perennials can't be shrubs? Even just to a definition?

Or is this something like your own private language?

I am not the poster from above, but shrubs don’t die back to the ground in the Fall. They have woody stems that remain. I think you could call them perennial shrubs but it’s a bit different from plants that shoot up all their new growth in the Spring.

I never would have pointed it out...but just wanted to explain!

Thank you for responding. Seriously.

But this is the definition of perennial:

Perennials are plants which are expected to live longer than two years. ... Trees and shrubs are considered woody or non-herbaceous perennials. They may lose their leaves in winter but remain very much alive in their roots right up through their stems, branches, and buds. Perennial trees and shrubs would be considered woody.
https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-a-perennial-flower-or-plant-1402789

And these all consider hydrangeas to be perennials:
https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Garden-Center...lowers-Perennials/N-5yc1vZc8ry
https://www.burpee.com/perennials/hydrangeas/
https://www.americanmeadows.com/perennials/hydrangea
https://gardenmadesimple.com/are-hydrangeas-annuals-or-perennials/
https://parkseed.com/hydrangea/c/hydrangea/
https://www.backyardgardenlover.com/sun-loving-perennials-that-bloom-all-summer/

I looked and did not find any gardening links that did not classify hydrangeas as perennials, nor did I find a definition of "perennial" that excluded shrubs or woody stems. Could anyone that argues agaisnt this provide some link to the contrary? Otherwise this is starting to sound like the DCUM poster who swore up and down that "wino" means "wine connoisseur."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hydrangeas

Hydrangea doesn’t belong to the perennials club.

Huh? My hydrangeas are shrubs that get bigger every year. How is this not a perennial??

It’s a shrub.

Could you give us a decent link that indicates perennials can't be shrubs? Even just to a definition?

Or is this something like your own private language?

I am not the poster from above, but shrubs don’t die back to the ground in the Fall. They have woody stems that remain. I think you could call them perennial shrubs but it’s a bit different from plants that shoot up all their new growth in the Spring.

I never would have pointed it out...but just wanted to explain!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hydrangeas

Hydrangea doesn’t belong to the perennials club.

Huh? My hydrangeas are shrubs that get bigger every year. How is this not a perennial??

It’s a shrub.

Could you give us a decent link that indicates perennials can't be shrubs? Even just to a definition?

Or is this something like your own private language?

No one's mentioned astible?? Second Virginia bluebells. I also like sweet woodruff for a pretty groundcover.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hydrangeas

Hydrangea doesn’t belong to the perennials club.

Huh? My hydrangeas are shrubs that get bigger every year. How is this not a perennial??

It’s a shrub.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hydrangeas

Hydrangea doesn’t belong to the perennials club.

Huh? My hydrangeas are shrubs that get bigger every year. How is this not a perennial??

also clematis, I get various in the mail.

https://donahuesclematis.com/

various Gaillardia

Anonymous wrote:Shade:
Phlox divaricata (smells unbelievable), Aruncus dioicus, and Symphyotrichum shortii. With these three, you'll get nonstop blooms from March to until November.




Part shade:
Baptisia australis and Hypericum prolificum. I love blue and yellow together and these two are around the same size and both full and bushy.

NP here. There’s a yellow Baptisia I love to combine it with Nepeta.