Anonymous wrote:There are responsible dog owners, and there are pandemic dog owners.

We live in a townhouse and our neighbors are renters. The house next door turned over in January - the previous renter would leave his new dog outside ALL DAY. We finally talked to him about one day in the fall, because we invited over two of DD's preschool friends for an outdoor birthday playdate. We had to move the kids to the playground because the neighbor left their house and left the dog outside - the dog barked through the fence the whole time and scared the kids. Thank goodness we have a playground we could take them to.

He has since moved out and our new neighbor has a sweet dog that we have never heard. We see them out walking several times a day, if she takes the dog out to the yard, she stays with it. She takes really good care of her dog and the dog is very sweet and well-trained.

Ok, that would have been a good teaching opportunity for you to tell them that the dogs are (wait for it)......behind a fence! SMDH.

I don't agree with leaving the dogs out while the neighbor left the house, but c'mon.

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Anonymous wrote:While you're out there training your dogs not to bark, please train the bird not to tweet, woodpeckers not to peck and those humans that talk loudly on their phones on their 6am walks not to speak!

Yea. Those Fing birds.

Damn birds wake me up early every morning!

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Right? WTF OP?

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Anonymous wrote:While you're out there training your dogs not to bark, please train the bird not to tweet, woodpeckers not to peck and those humans that talk loudly on their phones on their 6am walks not to speak!

Yea. Those Fing birds.

Damn birds wake me up early every morning!

There are responsible dog owners, and there are pandemic dog owners.

We live in a townhouse and our neighbors are renters. The house next door turned over in January - the previous renter would leave his new dog outside ALL DAY. We finally talked to him about one day in the fall, because we invited over two of DD's preschool friends for an outdoor birthday playdate. We had to move the kids to the playground because the neighbor left their house and left the dog outside - the dog barked through the fence the whole time and scared the kids. Thank goodness we have a playground we could take them to.

He has since moved out and our new neighbor has a sweet dog that we have never heard. We see them out walking several times a day, if she takes the dog out to the yard, she stays with it. She takes really good care of her dog and the dog is very sweet and well-trained.

I'm surprised so many people think this is okay. I only have little dogs, but trained them all not to bark (unless there's an issue!). Before 8am is too early in my opinion. Dogs shouldn't be allowed outside on their own if they just bark. They should be walked on leashes.

OP still hasn't come back to tell us what time in the morning.

Bizarrely, my dog rarely barks in the house (unless the USPS or Amazon are coming to the door) but when she gets outside, she often "converses" with the other dogs that are also outside nearby. We don't allow it in the morning, nor does she do that -- she goes out and generally does her biz so she can go back to napping -- but in the evening, it gets a little ridiculous. We pull her back in after a few minutes, but then we can just hear the other dogs barking for her. It's a coffee clatch. And there's one neighborhood dog that barks past 11pm - my girl is ready for bed at 9 - but we've all learned to ignore it.

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Anonymous wrote:Although I am not a dog owner, dogs are going to bark. The problem is how long these neighbors allow the barking. Set a timer from when you wake up and until they are brought back into the house. 5-10 minutes or 45 minutes of barking makes a big difference. With your data in hand, talk to the neighbors.

That's a horrible way to approach dog barking. 5-10 minutes is incredibly obnoxious. That's like letting the car alarm on your car go off for 5-10 minutes because it's convenient for you, and hey, at least it's better than 45 minutes.

Owners should walk their dog, or "let them out" to do their business and immediately bring them in. And train them not to bark.

Putting it on "how long these neighbors allow the barking" is the absolutely wrong approach. Zero of the burden should be on neighbors to tell you when enough is enough. Owners need to be responsible for their animals from the start.

Okay, I’m completely not a dog person at all but PP is ridiculous. I can imagine a lot of people but a house so they can let their dogs out in their fenced yard. This is one of those annoyances of living close to other people. They’re going to do things differently than you might like.

The only thing OP can do is buy a white noise machine and ear plugs.

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OP sounds insane, naive, spoiled and clueless about life. Get a grip, OP!

Let me guess, you are the neighbor that has the professional landscapers trucks (plural) at your house with leaf blowers (again, plural) at least once a week. Hint: there are no leaves now! OMG.

OP is hopeless. Maybe you should think about moving to where there are zero neighbors. Do you have a commute to worry about? Probably not, I am guessing.

+2. There is a big difference between 1 or 2 barks and constant barking. Long or constant barking is not ok. However, most of these people who think dogs should never make a sound are also the ones that think the sound of children playing loudly outside is totally ok no matter what time of day or how loud they are. Neighborhoods have noise. Our neighbor has a loud car and leaves for work promptly at 6 am every day. The garbage truck comes at 6:30 on trash day. People are getting new roofs, yard work done, etc. Can it be annoying sometimes? Yes. But should we expect total silence and everything to work around our schedule? No.

I’d be happy to wear ear plugs if people would pick up their dog sh*t or stop leaving bags with dog sh*t on the street or other people’s yards.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we talking 3:00 am in the morning or 7:00 in the morning when everyone should already be awake?

Says who? Have you ever done shift work? If someone gets home at 3 or 4 in the morning from the job, who do you think you are to tell them they don't deserve more than a couple of hours of sleep?

Okay. Did OP say she does shift work? If she did I missed it. The vast vast majority of people are well awake by 7, and probably a majority are up by 6. If you’re not on some sort of shift work and are in bed past 7 so dogs barking bothers you, maybe look at your own lifestyle and choices rather than forcing others to conform to your unique timeline.

Doesn't matter. The person I quoted (you?) said EVERYONE should be awake. What a ridiculous, self-centered, statement.

Anonymous wrote:While you're out there training your dogs not to bark, please train the bird not to tweet, woodpeckers not to peck and those humans that talk loudly on their phones on their 6am walks not to speak!

Yea. Those Fing birds.

Anonymous wrote:While you're out there training your dogs not to bark, please train the bird not to tweet, woodpeckers not to peck and those humans that talk loudly on their phones on their 6am walks not to speak!

Not the same thing and you know it.

While you're out there training your dogs not to bark, please train the bird not to tweet, woodpeckers not to peck and those humans that talk loudly on their phones on their 6am walks not to speak!

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Anonymous wrote:Although I am not a dog owner, dogs are going to bark. The problem is how long these neighbors allow the barking. Set a timer from when you wake up and until they are brought back into the house. 5-10 minutes or 45 minutes of barking makes a big difference. With your data in hand, talk to the neighbors.

That's a horrible way to approach dog barking. 5-10 minutes is incredibly obnoxious. That's like letting the car alarm on your car go off for 5-10 minutes because it's convenient for you, and hey, at least it's better than 45 minutes.

Owners should walk their dog, or "let them out" to do their business and immediately bring them in. And train them not to bark.

Putting it on "how long these neighbors allow the barking" is the absolutely wrong approach. Zero of the burden should be on neighbors to tell you when enough is enough. Owners need to be responsible for their animals from the start.

Okay, I’m completely not a dog person at all but PP is ridiculous. I can imagine a lot of people but a house so they can let their dogs out in their fenced yard. This is one of those annoyances of living close to other people. They’re going to do things differently than you might like.

The only thing OP can do is buy a white noise machine and ear plugs.

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OP sounds insane, naive, spoiled and clueless about life. Get a grip, OP!

Let me guess, you are the neighbor that has the professional landscapers trucks (plural) at your house with leaf blowers (again, plural) at least once a week. Hint: there are no leaves now! OMG.

OP is hopeless. Maybe you should think about moving to where there are zero neighbors. Do you have a commute to worry about? Probably not, I am guessing.

???

DP.

I’m the poster with the jerky neighbors who stick their dogs outside for 30 minutes at 5:30am.

I do not have landscapers. We never tackle yard work until late afternoon/early evening. We don’t let our kids play outside until after 10am on the weekends.

Dog owners are sometimes selfish imho.

It goes both ways. If you move next to a house with a dog - guess what? It will bark. Surprise.

Nobody is surprised that dogs bark.

Your neighbors are annoyed that you are too selfish and lazy to walk your dog or wait at the door while it does it’s business rather than let it bark at 5:30am and wake up the neighborhood.

A lot of people got puppies during COVID and I bet few have ever had dogs before. We are going to have a generation or poorly trained, poorly socialized dogs because of lazy owners who didn’t take the time to train their dogs. When WFH ends many people who still are home during the day are going to have to invest in ear plugs and sound machines. Dogs are going to bark but with training you can minimize it. I bet the OP’s neighbor is a lazy owner who just wakes up and lets the dog loose in the backyard early in the am.

OP, every neighborhood is going to have something that is an issue. You have nothing to complain about, comparatively.