Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There can't really be an equivalent. Girls don't really grow up thinking that men are supposed to submit to them in some way. You might see a woman say that she is upset that she can't find a good man who is interested in her, or you might see a woman have a crush on a man that she knows doesn't like her back, but it's pretty rare to see a woman angry or surprised that a particular man isn't interested in her. Blame the patriarchy.

I think there can be, just not as common.
The girl that is at the beck and call of her male friends (watching their dogs while they vacation with hotties) and resents they aren’t the girlfriend. They “get even” by meddling in relationships, spreading rumors, etc.

This. To some extent the default setting is supposed to be “nice” for girls and there isn’t a societal benefit of being labeled “the bad girl”. So the closest equivalent is the “I’m just one of the guys, I’m not like the other girls”. They may have even hooked up with the guy friend they have a crush one tequila fueled night. They play the it’s all cool while he dates the hottie and laments/resents feeling like they are always the bridesmaid and never the bride.

Is that really a dynamic? I don't think there's really a female equivalent of being friend zoned because young men so frequently befriend women because they want to date. If you're the friend to a group of young men, at least one of them would be happy to be with you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s hard for bitter hard women to contemplate, but there are hot, smart, athletic, great degree/career, nice girls that are hot in the sack and totally faithful and monogamous and they do actually land the prize in their 20s and get the desirable men of similar age. They don’t need to settle for somebody’s second bits or a divorced guy or a guy with baggage or some old dude that wants a younger woman. When you gave it all, you don’t need to settle.

That's nice, but this isn't what this thread is about. If you want to discuss this, start your own.

I hope you're not a woman, seething with hatred for other women in such a way. Strong women lift up other women instead of putting them down.

+1
They also don’t sleep with other women’s husbands. It’s the height of hypocrisy when I hear those words come out of the mouths of women that do this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There can't really be an equivalent. Girls don't really grow up thinking that men are supposed to submit to them in some way. You might see a woman say that she is upset that she can't find a good man who is interested in her, or you might see a woman have a crush on a man that she knows doesn't like her back, but it's pretty rare to see a woman angry or surprised that a particular man isn't interested in her. Blame the patriarchy.

I think there can be, just not as common.
The girl that is at the beck and call of her male friends (watching their dogs while they vacation with hotties) and resents they aren’t the girlfriend. They “get even” by meddling in relationships, spreading rumors, etc.

This. To some extent the default setting is supposed to be “nice” for girls and there isn’t a societal benefit of being labeled “the bad girl”. So the closest equivalent is the “I’m just one of the guys, I’m not like the other girls”. They may have even hooked up with the guy friend they have a crush one tequila fueled night. They play the it’s all cool while he dates the hottie and laments/resents feeling like they are always the bridesmaid and never the bride.

Is that really a dynamic? I don't think there's really a female equivalent of being friend zoned because young men so frequently befriend women because they want to date. If you're the friend to a group of young men, at least one of them would be happy to be with you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There can't really be an equivalent. Girls don't really grow up thinking that men are supposed to submit to them in some way. You might see a woman say that she is upset that she can't find a good man who is interested in her, or you might see a woman have a crush on a man that she knows doesn't like her back, but it's pretty rare to see a woman angry or surprised that a particular man isn't interested in her. Blame the patriarchy.

I think there can be, just not as common.
The girl that is at the beck and call of her male friends (watching their dogs while they vacation with hotties) and resents they aren’t the girlfriend. They “get even” by meddling in relationships, spreading rumors, etc.

This. To some extent the default setting is supposed to be “nice” for girls and there isn’t a societal benefit of being labeled “the bad girl”. So the closest equivalent is the “I’m just one of the guys, I’m not like the other girls”. They may have even hooked up with the guy friend they have a crush one tequila fueled night. They play the it’s all cool while he dates the hottie and laments/resents feeling like they are always the bridesmaid and never the bride.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s hard for bitter hard women to contemplate, but there are hot, smart, athletic, great degree/career, nice girls that are hot in the sack and totally faithful and monogamous and they do actually land the prize in their 20s and get the desirable men of similar age. They don’t need to settle for somebody’s second bits or a divorced guy or a guy with baggage or some old dude that wants a younger woman. When you gave it all, you don’t need to settle.

That's nice, but this isn't what this thread is about. If you want to discuss this, start your own.

I hope you're not a woman, seething with hatred for other women in such a way. Strong women lift up other women instead of putting them down.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There can't really be an equivalent. Girls don't really grow up thinking that men are supposed to submit to them in some way. You might see a woman say that she is upset that she can't find a good man who is interested in her, or you might see a woman have a crush on a man that she knows doesn't like her back, but it's pretty rare to see a woman angry or surprised that a particular man isn't interested in her. Blame the patriarchy.

I think there can be, just not as common.
The girl that is at the beck and call of her male friends (watching their dogs while they vacation with hotties) and resents they aren’t the girlfriend. They “get even” by meddling in relationships, spreading rumors, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s hard for bitter hard women to contemplate, but there are hot, smart, athletic, great degree/career, nice girls that are hot in the sack and totally faithful and monogamous and they do actually land the prize in their 20s and get the desirable men of similar age. They don’t need to settle for somebody’s second bits or a divorced guy or a guy with baggage or some old dude that wants a younger woman. When you gave it all, you don’t need to settle.

That's nice, but this isn't what this thread is about. If you want to discuss this, start your own.

I hope you're not a woman, seething with hatred for other women in such a way. Strong women lift up other women instead of putting them down.

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s hard for bitter hard women to contemplate, but there are hot, smart, athletic, great degree/career, nice girls that are hot in the sack and totally faithful and monogamous and they do actually land the prize in their 20s and get the desirable men of similar age. They don’t need to settle for somebody’s second bits or a divorced guy or a guy with baggage or some old dude that wants a younger woman. When you gave it all, you don’t need to settle.

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Anonymous wrote:By "Nice Guy," I assume we're talking about the guy who hovers around a woman, pretending to be her friend, then -- not actually being so nice -- gets pissed when the woman never wants to have sex with him?

Yes. "Nice guys" aren't nice. They feel entitled to things, and they scream about being nice, but it's about getting what they "deserve," not what they actually deserve.