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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Well, one of the reasons being that's not necessarily true, especially in the humanities and international affairs (which are ironically UVA's strength compared to other publics)

Georgetown is also much smaller, located in a great part of DC, attracts a very large number of students from across the world that tend to be political/financial elites of their respective countries.

Much better than attending a school full of rural public school kids who can't keep up, 66% in-state and the rest being upper-middle-class suburbanites from NYC metro.

If tuition and cost of living are not an issue, these are very good reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

How is this remotely relevant or helpful to OP? She’s not asking about wealth.

She's characterizing UVA's student body, so I want to make sure she understands what Georgetown's is. Fair game.

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Anonymous wrote:When my kid talked to his guidance counselor (for an Arlington County School), he was told that virtually no student from the high school with decently high grades/scores would apply to Georgetown (even kids who could go for free on aid) because it is so close, unless a parent worked there.

On a different note, I have told that it is impossible to get into Harvard/MIT from the Boston area, unless a kid is flat out amazing

I have a hard time believing that, considering the number of students New England prep schools send to Harvard every year.

Not true, I checked my MCPS school over a period of years and approximately 15-20% of seniors applied to Georgetown each year.

Are you dense? We're talking about NOVA, not MCPS. Of course more MCPS students are applying because you don't have UVA in state.

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Anonymous wrote:When my kid talked to his guidance counselor (for an Arlington County School), he was told that virtually no student from the high school with decently high grades/scores would apply to Georgetown (even kids who could go for free on aid) because it is so close, unless a parent worked there.

On a different note, I have told that it is impossible to get into Harvard/MIT from the Boston area, unless a kid is flat out amazing

I have a hard time believing that, considering the number of students New England prep schools send to Harvard every year.

Not true, I checked my MCPS school over a period of years and approximately 15-20% of seniors applied to Georgetown each year.

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Anonymous wrote:When my kid talked to his guidance counselor (for an Arlington County School), he was told that virtually no student from the high school with decently high grades/scores would apply to Georgetown (even kids who could go for free on aid) because it is so close, unless a parent worked there.

On a different note, I have told that it is impossible to get into Harvard/MIT from the Boston area, unless a kid is flat out amazing

I have a hard time believing that, considering the number of students New England prep schools send to Harvard every year.

Anonymous wrote:When my kid talked to his guidance counselor (for an Arlington County School), he was told that virtually no student from the high school with decently high grades/scores would apply to Georgetown (even kids who could go for free on aid) because it is so close, unless a parent worked there.

On a different note, I have told that it is impossible to get into Harvard/MIT from the Boston area, unless a kid is flat out amazing

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

Yes, it is.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Well, one of the reasons being that's not necessarily true, especially in the humanities and international affairs (which are ironically UVA's strength compared to other publics)

Georgetown is also much smaller, located in a great part of DC, attracts a very large number of students from across the world that tend to be political/financial elites of their respective countries.

Much better than attending a school full of rural public school kids who can't keep up, 66% in-state and the rest being upper-middle-class suburbanites from NYC metro.

If tuition and cost of living are not an issue, these are very good reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA.

UVA is 34k a year in state. Georgetown is 76k. Georgetown has a paltry endowment, a tiny campus, and is largely populated by Ivy League rejects. It is not known in broad academic circles as better than UVA. They're considered peer institutions. Even if money isn't an issue, there's no reason to attend Georgetown over UVA.

Georgetown is plainly a better school and you plainly have a large chip on your shoulder.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

Weird post. Plenty of Ivy rejects in UVA as well, and out of the ones you listed, only Wash U. is regularly cited as "second-choice" because its in St. Louis.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

Weird post. Plenty of Ivy rejects in UVA as well, and out of the ones you listed, only Wash U. is regularly cited as "second-choice" because its in St. Louis.

The top 25 schools at least are full of Ivy rejects.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

It is. It is literally (a large part of) why people go to TJ, to go to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

You don't work for Georgetown. I do, and I know what you said isn't true.

??? What a weird thing to say. I do work there. I'm not sure what I said that you know not to be true, but I'd be interested to know. Is it the admissions tip thing? I've heard it's true, but I don't have ironclad confirmation. Anyway, share what you know....