Anonymous
03/02/2021 09:06
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
I'm always ready to call out hypocrisy, but having your young child in daycare isn't that, even for a labor leader.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 09:01
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a toddler going to day care, not school. Very different.
Nope
Why?
It's a no win situation. Teachers with small kids at home catch shit from parents. Putting your kid in childcare means you catch shit from parents. A daycare for two year olds can have much smaller ratios and more stringent covid protocols than a public school ever will.
The protocols in Ca schools are exceedingly safe, far safer than in a preschool. Beyond THAT, I find it immoral that this jerk is impeding the education of an entire city of school children while allowing his own child to have care outside of the home plus whatever social and intellectual stimulation comes with it. It’s repugnant. I’m sure there are many more like him. It’s truly hypocritical. I’m a progressive Democrat, and sick of idiots like him making crappy demands that are harming our kids.
Day care is open. His child is in day care.
Maybe they shouldn't be. Maybe if everyone stayed home for a couple months we could kick this thing.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 08:59
Subject: Re:President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Almost every public school teacher I know has their kids in private or parochial school. This is nothing new. Get a life, OP.
Ahh so the claims about not being able to afford childcare aren't real then?
Anonymous
03/02/2021 08:50
Subject: Re:President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:He is sending his kid to daycare. When you lie and stretch the truth like you are, OP, and then you are caught at it, it makes everything you say suspect and unbelievable.
He is arguing to keep schools closed for thousands of kids, and at the same time letting his child go to a school with other children (even if you claim that a daycare is so much different from a school as far as safety).
Anonymous
03/02/2021 08:33
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
He can be all these things and still be a hypocrite. Some of us can think this is ethically dubious on his part.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 08:30
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
And, a hypocrite.
There is no reason for schools not to be open and him taking his daughter to preschool just exemplifies that.
The unions represent teachers - not students. This is important to remember. They don't have students' best interests in mind. Individual teachers might, but the unions don't.
The public is right to be calling him out.
~A retired teacher
Why would a labor union represent anyone other than their members? Their job is to represent the interest of their members. This year, that means advocating for the most stringent safety standards. Some years, the union focuses on the school budget or other issues. Expecting a teachers union to put in school learning ahead of their members’ health and safety is like expecting a trade union to advocate for their customers and lower the cost of labor.
It’s very strange that people think teachers don’t need any advocacy to protect their working conditions, which are also children’s learning conditions. If my union didn’t exist I know schools would be happy to put 40 kids in a class. There is extensive data that shows that public schools are better funded and there are better educational outcomes in states with strong teachers unions. It’s almost like organized labor is a good thing, and republicans have been trying to destroy it to drive down wages, eliminate safety protocols, and reap massive profits! But no, must be that teachers are evil and want to sabotage the children.
There is also extensive data that the safest place for students is in school. Not to mention the consequences of them not being in school (depression, lack of reporting of child abuse, etc. etc.)
The data also indicate that opening schools is safe. Even if teachers are not vaccinated.
The unions are not following the science. THAT is the problem here.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 07:58
Subject: Re:President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
He is sending his kid to daycare. When you lie and stretch the truth like you are, OP, and then you are caught at it, it makes everything you say suspect and unbelievable.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 07:51
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
And, a hypocrite.
There is no reason for schools not to be open and him taking his daughter to preschool just exemplifies that.
The unions represent teachers - not students. This is important to remember. They don't have students' best interests in mind. Individual teachers might, but the unions don't.
The public is right to be calling him out.
~A retired teacher
Why would a labor union represent anyone other than their members? Their job is to represent the interest of their members. This year, that means advocating for the most stringent safety standards. Some years, the union focuses on the school budget or other issues. Expecting a teachers union to put in school learning ahead of their members’ health and safety is like expecting a trade union to advocate for their customers and lower the cost of labor.
It’s very strange that people think teachers don’t need any advocacy to protect their working conditions, which are also children’s learning conditions. If my union didn’t exist I know schools would be happy to put 40 kids in a class. There is extensive data that shows that public schools are better funded and there are better educational outcomes in states with strong teachers unions. It’s almost like organized labor is a good thing, and republicans have been trying to destroy it to drive down wages, eliminate safety protocols, and reap massive profits! But no, must be that teachers are evil and want to sabotage the children.
He’s a labor leader for a public service union and clearly lying.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 07:34
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
And, a hypocrite.
There is no reason for schools not to be open and him taking his daughter to preschool just exemplifies that.
The unions represent teachers - not students. This is important to remember. They don't have students' best interests in mind. Individual teachers might, but the unions don't.
The public is right to be calling him out.
~A retired teacher
Why would a labor union represent anyone other than their members? Their job is to represent the interest of their members. This year, that means advocating for the most stringent safety standards. Some years, the union focuses on the school budget or other issues. Expecting a teachers union to put in school learning ahead of their members’ health and safety is like expecting a trade union to advocate for their customers and lower the cost of labor.
It’s very strange that people think teachers don’t need any advocacy to protect their working conditions, which are also children’s learning conditions. If my union didn’t exist I know schools would be happy to put 40 kids in a class. There is extensive data that shows that public schools are better funded and there are better educational outcomes in states with strong teachers unions. It’s almost like organized labor is a good thing, and republicans have been trying to destroy it to drive down wages, eliminate safety protocols, and reap massive profits! But no, must be that teachers are evil and want to sabotage the children.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 07:22
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
And, a hypocrite.
There is no reason for schools not to be open and him taking his daughter to preschool just exemplifies that.
The unions represent teachers - not students. This is important to remember. They don't have students' best interests in mind. Individual teachers might, but the unions don't.
The public is right to be calling him out.
~A retired teacher
Anonymous
03/02/2021 06:43
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
You guys don’t seem to understand that he is the president of the teachers union. His job is to represent his dues paying members. He isn’t a teacher. He is a labor leader.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 02:25
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a toddler going to day care, not school. Very different.
Nope
Why?
It's a no win situation. Teachers with small kids at home catch shit from parents. Putting your kid in childcare means you catch shit from parents. A daycare for two year olds can have much smaller ratios and more stringent covid protocols than a public school ever will.
The protocols in Ca schools are exceedingly safe, far safer than in a preschool. Beyond THAT, I find it immoral that this jerk is impeding the education of an entire city of school children while allowing his own child to have care outside of the home plus whatever social and intellectual stimulation comes with it. It’s repugnant. I’m sure there are many more like him. It’s truly hypocritical. I’m a progressive Democrat, and sick of idiots like him making crappy demands that are harming our kids.
Day care is open. His child is in day care.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 02:23
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a toddler going to day care, not school. Very different.
Nope
Why?
It's a no win situation. Teachers with small kids at home catch shit from parents. Putting your kid in childcare means you catch shit from parents. A daycare for two year olds can have much smaller ratios and more stringent covid protocols than a public school ever will.
The protocols in Ca schools are exceedingly safe, far safer than in a preschool. Beyond THAT, I find it immoral that this jerk is impeding the education of an entire city of school children while allowing his own child to have care outside of the home plus whatever social and intellectual stimulation comes with it. It’s repugnant. I’m sure there are many more like him. It’s truly hypocritical. I’m a progressive Democrat, and sick of idiots like him making crappy demands that are harming our kids.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 02:16
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Lay off, OP.
Plenty of public school teachers and teachers’ union people put their kids in private, and that’s fine with me. I’m not a teacher and put my kids in public. All good.
Fake news. I have been told all year that teachers barely make a living wage, so they clearly could not afford to send their kids to private schools.
You are almost right. I spent over half my salary on preschool tuition.
That’s not bad. I was looking at my entire salary for one for day care. It did not pay to work.
Anonymous
03/02/2021 02:14
Subject: President of Berkeley Teachers Union has kid in private preschool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Lay off, OP.
Plenty of public school teachers and teachers’ union people put their kids in private, and that’s fine with me. I’m not a teacher and put my kids in public. All good.
Fake news. I have been told all year that teachers barely make a living wage, so they clearly could not afford to send their kids to private schools.
You are almost right. I spent over half my salary on preschool tuition.