Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, just shut up already. Kids will be back in school next month, get over it.

5 days a week??? That’s great!!! Maybe my kid stands a fighting chance on APs after all.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

For FCPS, it will be whichever registered Union of the three is awarded collective bargaining in 3 months. The heavy favorite is the FEA because they are the NEA affiliate with all the money, political power and organization. It’s like Godzilla vs 2 garden lizards. So yes, Kim Adam’s.

Yes, the FCFT just gives out tiny Subway sandwiches at lunch to try to convince you to join and the other one I can never even remember the name of. FEA will definitely be “the union” when the vote happens this spring.

We will see. They are similar in size so it will be interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you understand that you're talking about something that is impossible? There is NO teacher's union to sue.

What is the FEA then? Because it’s tax status in VA is “Union”.

I’m not a member, but FEA, FCfT, etc have no peer to make any decisions regarding school operations.

One of them will in May.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, feel free to sink your own money into this little farce.

ha, you don't know how classes work. you'd easily find a firm to do this pro bono given the size and public nature of the class.

Clearly not considering there isn’t one in action. But by all means, try it although it’s hard to see how you’d have the time given every parent just swears they’re working full time and fully educating their kids already.

The firm would only take it on if they thought the case might have merits. What exactly would the claim be, here?

It would be a die in to the DOE Office of Civil Rights litigation against FCPS for violating IDEA and FAPE by not pallowing kids in person for IEP services, when clearly county kids and HS athletes were there doing activities that were as risky or riskier.

The damages are reimbursement for parents to provide private hours of services. I thought there was a class action awaiting certification. No? IEP parents would no better.

If FCPS had kept everyone out, they would have a defense. But letter the county kids and athletes in has created a mess that will end in them paying a lot of money. But not soon enough to help the kids who need i help now.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

Exactly. There isn’t one.

Then you might want todvise the VA State tax office if the fact that the VEA suiting tax fraud. Because it’s a legally recognized union.

The PP said “the Virginia teacher’s union”. There isn’t one union that is “the teacher’s union”. Sure. FEA is a union local. FCFT is a union local. AFPE is a local. Which one would you like to count as “the teacher’s union”? There isn’t ONE.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

For FCPS, it will be whichever registered Union of the three is awarded collective bargaining in 3 months. The heavy favorite is the FEA because they are the NEA affiliate with all the money, political power and organization. It’s like Godzilla vs 2 garden lizards. So yes, Kim Adam’s.

Yes, the FCFT just gives out tiny Subway sandwiches at lunch to try to convince you to join and the other one I can never even remember the name of. FEA will definitely be “the union” when the vote happens this spring.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

Exactly. There isn’t one.

Then you might want todvise the VA State tax office if the fact that the VEA suiting tax fraud. Because it’s a legally recognized union.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

For FCPS, it will be whichever registered Union of the three is awarded collective bargaining in 3 months. The heavy favorite is the FEA because they are the NEA affiliate with all the money, political power and organization. It’s like Godzilla vs 2 garden lizards. So yes, Kim Adam’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

Exactly. There isn’t one.

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Anonymous wrote:Become better parents. That’s my advice. I refrained from parent bashing for the last three months, but I am so fed up with being held responsible for the well being of complete strangers’ children, and being blamed for their well being or lack thereof.

If you are considering legal action, well, that’s one way to actively avoid facing and confronting your parenting issues. You aren’t helping your kids, though. That is what is sad about this.

Clearly a teacher plant. GET BACK TO WORK OR FILE UNEMPLOYMENT. SICK OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT.

I am working. Are you? How are your children doing? If you are as unhinged as you sound, I can guess at the answer.

I understand why you need teachers back in the building. It’s because they take better care of your children than you do. I feel sorry for you.

You’re not working though. You’re trolling chat rooms exposing your disdain for those you serve. That’s right: it used to be described as a calling, a public service to be an educator. You’ve laid bare how much you despise kids and parents though. You’re akin to a doctor that hates his or her patients. You’re actively harming kids; they are victims in your classroom. You should do the right thing and go find another job.

Wow, some of you guys are barely holding it together.

Ya think? A year in of DL with tow Es kids and our own full time jobs and not able to call on usual supports like extended (older family). YES! WE ARE BARE?Y HOLDING IT TOGETHER. zigs been a full year soon FFS. And 2 days a week isn’t helpful on the making a family function past.

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Anonymous wrote:What is this mythical teachers union I keep hearing about?

It’s he eA, which is under the VEA, which is under the NEA, which you may have heard of because it’s wealthy, it’s powerful and it wants to represent FCPS teachers in collective bargaining when they are allowed to vote in May. And that is a HUGE issue no one is talking about. With collective bargaining, we’d look like DCPS— we’d need to above. Days nex year, if that.

This is interesting, because their President Kim Adam’s can I stop running her mouth and does not limit herself to facts. I’d bet a lot that if you went through her public statements there’s a libel, slander, defamation type tort sui there. You’d have to dig, but pending litigation of this sort would muzzle her.

It’s like getting Trump on tax fraud. Sometimes you have to go sideways at a problem in law.

Government actors in their official role have a ton of protection. The place FCPS is vulnerable is FAPE. The DOE is investigating them because they have county daycare kids and athletes in buildings, but aren’t providing SN services. That’s a real problem for them. It’s so unascent, we won’t follow IEPs for years, but wrestlers with masks...

SNs parents need to be looking at a class action.

It’s going to take longer than May to get it all in place.

FEA represents what % of teaching staff? FEA/NEA and FCFT/AFT will compete to represent.

FEA had NEA backing. They have all the money, power and organization. It will be them.

And yes, it will take longer than May to win. But winnning isn’t the point )0(although it would be nice) it would be to put FCPS in a defense posture and having the SB members know that down the road, they will be deposed under oath to determine why SNs were excluded and wrestlers were not. And they will need a better answer than because the unions funded my campaign to avoid a costly and hugely embarrassing judgment.

It adds to pressure point.

I imagine AFT will be throwing in some backing of their own too. I’m from a northern state and the AFT isn’t a major player there.

Anonymous wrote:I know there’s a lot to this question but has there been any exploration of legal action on behalf of a class of FCPS parents against the Virginia teachers union and/or the school board? I’m not suggesting litigating here and causing a shitstorm, but does anyone know if it’s been raised or being organized?

What is the “Virginia teachers union” -please advise.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you understand that you're talking about something that is impossible? There is NO teacher's union to sue.

What is the FEA then? Because it’s tax status in VA is “Union”.

I’m not a member, but FEA, FCfT, etc have no peer to make any decisions regarding school operations.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, feel free to sink your own money into this little farce.

ha, you don't know how classes work. you'd easily find a firm to do this pro bono given the size and public nature of the class.

Clearly not considering there isn’t one in action. But by all means, try it although it’s hard to see how you’d have the time given every parent just swears they’re working full time and fully educating their kids already.

The firm would only take it on if they thought the case might have merits. What exactly would the claim be, here?

That's what I can't figure out, what would the complaint/charges be?

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Anonymous wrote:Become better parents. That’s my advice. I refrained from parent bashing for the last three months, but I am so fed up with being held responsible for the well being of complete strangers’ children, and being blamed for their well being or lack thereof.

If you are considering legal action, well, that’s one way to actively avoid facing and confronting your parenting issues. You aren’t helping your kids, though. That is what is sad about this.

Clearly a teacher plant. GET BACK TO WORK OR FILE UNEMPLOYMENT. SICK OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT.

I am working. Are you? How are your children doing? If you are as unhinged as you sound, I can guess at the answer.

I understand why you need teachers back in the building. It’s because they take better care of your children than you do. I feel sorry for you.

You’re not working though. You’re trolling chat rooms exposing your disdain for those you serve. That’s right: it used to be described as a calling, a public service to be an educator. You’ve laid bare how much you despise kids and parents though. You’re akin to a doctor that hates his or her patients. You’re actively harming kids; they are victims in your classroom. You should do the right thing and go find another job.

PP isn't "trolling" any more than you are, and you have no idea if they're on a scheduled break or day off - and here you are, too. Does your employer know you're not working and "trolling" an internet chat board?

And let's can the expectation of martyrdom for teachers. "Calling"? "Public service"? It's a job not a religious order. I don't work for free or peanuts, and it's absurd to expect teachers to. You want better candidates, then the pay and reward for better performance has to be there, particularly to put up with the asshole parents in FCPS (#notallparents). My kids have had great teachers, mediocre teachers, and terrible teachers - I'd love to see some incentive to keep the great ones and offload the terrible ones. Teachers don't do this for free and the days of it being a calling to serve the children are in the time when men earned more because they had a family to support and teaching was a nice job for ladies to have until they got married.

My kids are both in DL, and it's fine. Not great, not ideal for my SpEd kid in particular, but they're fine and we're involved to make sure they're staying up to speed as well as doing some supplementing (just as we would with in-person school). This hyperbolic victim mentality helps no one, and you do come across as a bit unhinged.