Anonymous wrote:Underlying health conditions for 16-64 will begin on March 1, per today's presser.

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Anonymous wrote:^ essential workers is an ever expanding category that is taking half the vaccines from at risk DC seniors. At some point, you gotta choose. Do you care about DC seniors..or not?

Vaccinating essential workers while you also vaccinate seniors, even if it's out of a limited pool of vaccine doses, does not show you "don't care" about D.C. seniors. Partly because if the essential workers who are doing things like stocking the grocery store where the seniors shop (or delivering their groceries to their homes) are vaccinated, that helps protect the seniors, too.

It'd be another thing if they were vaccinating, like, members of the media ahead of seniors, but there's no indication D.C. is moving into that category yet. They aren't even vaccinating people under 65 with underlying health conditions. Seniors are ahead of virtually everyone else -- appropriately so -- but it makes some sense to go ahead and push along on multiple tracks at the same time. Many seniors will also be eligible to be contacted through hospitals, which have their own allocations to give out, though I know that whole thing has been another controversy here.

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Anonymous wrote:^ essential workers is an ever expanding category that is taking half the vaccines from at risk DC seniors. At some point, you gotta choose. Do you care about DC seniors..or not?

Vaccinating essential workers while you also vaccinate seniors, even if it's out of a limited pool of vaccine doses, does not show you "don't care" about D.C. seniors. Partly because if the essential workers who are doing things like stocking the grocery store where the seniors shop (or delivering their groceries to their homes) are vaccinated, that helps protect the seniors, too.

It'd be another thing if they were vaccinating, like, members of the media ahead of seniors, but there's no indication D.C. is moving into that category yet. They aren't even vaccinating people under 65 with underlying health conditions. Seniors are ahead of virtually everyone else -- appropriately so -- but it makes some sense to go ahead and push along on multiple tracks at the same time. Many seniors will also be eligible to be contacted through hospitals, which have their own allocations to give out, though I know that whole thing has been another controversy here.

Anonymous wrote:^ essential workers is an ever expanding category that is taking half the vaccines from at risk DC seniors. At some point, you gotta choose. Do you care about DC seniors..or not?

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

They did hash out a deal. MD and VA agreed to vaccinate essential employees where they work regardless of where they live. It's on the websites for both states. Fun fact: No ID or proof of residency required in DC, MD or VA. So feel free to use an address from any of the three states to try to get an appointment when eligible.

^ the issue is the massive discrepancy in numbers. DC is currently allocating half its vaccine stock to out of staters and is last in the nation in vaccinating her own residents. But at the same time we are worried about equity for Ward 8. Huh, which is it then?

I'm worried about both. I want essential workers vaccinated AND especially high risk poor seniors. I DGAF about some random DCUM person who has hours and hours to post here about how angry she is.

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

They did hash out a deal. MD and VA agreed to vaccinate essential employees where they work regardless of where they live. It's on the websites for both states. Fun fact: No ID or proof of residency required in DC, MD or VA. So feel free to use an address from any of the three states to try to get an appointment when eligible.

^ the issue is the massive discrepancy in numbers. DC is currently allocating half its vaccine stock to out of staters and is last in the nation in vaccinating her own residents. But at the same time we are worried about equity for Ward 8. Huh, which is it then?

I'm worried about both. I want essential workers vaccinated AND especially high risk poor seniors. I DGAF about some random DCUM person who has hours and hours to post here about how angry she is.

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

They did hash out a deal. MD and VA agreed to vaccinate essential employees where they work regardless of where they live. It's on the websites for both states. Fun fact: No ID or proof of residency required in DC, MD or VA. So feel free to use an address from any of the three states to try to get an appointment when eligible.

^ the issue is the massive discrepancy in numbers. DC is currently allocating half its vaccine stock to out of staters and is last in the nation in vaccinating her own residents. But at the same time we are worried about equity for Ward 8. Huh, which is it then?

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

They did hash out a deal. MD and VA agreed to vaccinate essential employees where they work regardless of where they live. It's on the websites for both states. Fun fact: No ID or proof of residency required in DC, MD or VA. So feel free to use an address from any of the three states to try to get an appointment when eligible.

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

Those workers are essential to DC, they are not essential in MD or VA. They can get their vaccines when they normally qualify in their home state, but there is no reason for their home states to consider them essential when they don't actual serve their home state's population

MDs next phase includes grocery workers. Are you claiming that someone who works for Giant in DC cannot get vaccinated in MD in this phase? I doubt that. If so, the Mayor needs to hash out a deal with MD. That's called "leadership".

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Anonymous wrote:If the out-of-state residents are front-line health care workers, cops, firefighters, teachers, or working in D.C. grocery stores, I still don't see why it's bad for us to have them be vaccinated from D.C.'s stock. They're in D.C. all day potentially transmitting covid to D.C. residents.

The feds should vaccinate federal workers, though, certainly. Or D.C. should make clear that feds who don't fall into those categories above will go behind D.C. residents.

The issue isn't their worthiness. The issue is they have or will have stock assigned to them in their own state. Meanwhile, DC keeps expanding the categories of worker vaccination and pulling from from stock directly correlated to DCs resident population - while residents sit in their houses (since March) awaiting vaccination.

As to essential Fed workers which includes post office etc--request appears to be about to be denied. They come into the city too, so either DC makes a consistent decision about sending a message of putting residents first since we are not being allocated stock to vaccinate anyone else and our neighbor states won't "share", or they don't. At least let's be logical.

The point is not solely to put residents first. Essential workers are a critical component of public health. I honestly don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.

Because DC requested vaccine based on DC population head count, not the workers who come into the city every day. Now they are giving half the vaccine away. No other state or jurisdiction is doing this. Why is the inequity hard for your to understand?

DC has requested vaccine based on all the essential workers who work in DC. Every single time the mayor talks about this, she says DC needs more vaccine. We can only get what the feds allocate to us.

It is not half. It looks to be about 40 percent, based on my math, and quite a bit less if you take out the 16000 doses that MD and VA gave us.

Other states ARE dealing with this, even if it might not be to the same extent. I am a DC resident who got a vaccine in VA. My husband is a DC resident who got his vaccine through DoD, also in VA.

Essential employees are part of our public health ecosystem whether you like it or not. I am at far higher risk from a DC grocery store employee than a 65 year old who I pass in the greeting card section at Politics and Prose. I am not a bowser booster, but she's trying to thread the needle with seniors in very different economic brackets, essential employees and at-risk populations with precious few vaccines.

A little googling will show you that other states have the same policy and are facing some of the same challenges:

According to the New York City Health Department’s COVID site, if you fall into any of these categories and you work in New York City, you are eligible for a vaccine there: People ages 65 and older; teachers, school staff, in-person college instructors and child care workers; correction staff; first responders; public transit workers; public-facing grocery store workers; people working and living in group homeless shelters and other group setting

Almost 28% of people who have been vaccinated in New York City don’t live there, The City reported last week.

Seven percent of those who have been vaccinated in the city live in New Jersey, the publication said based on an analysis of data from the city’s COVID-19 vaccine site.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/01/can-i-get-a-covid-vaccine-in-ny-or-pa-if-i-live-in-nj.html

The number of vaccine allocated to DC is based on DCs population. The Mayor has secured nothing further.