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Anonymous wrote:Let's all try to share stories like this with Duran. NOT in an effort to get any teachers fired. But to show him that everyone has their own level of risk they are willing to take, whether to see family, take a vacation, or get back in the classroom.

The OP’s story or the Disney story?

Both.. Plus the ski resort story plus others that are popping up.

Expect to see a LOT of asynchronous work the second half of February, when teachers are *hopefully* getting their second vaccine shots. The booster is supposed to have higher chances of negative side effects for a day or so, and many teachers may take a sick day.

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There are not enough subs. We have been directed to assign asynchronous work when absent without a sub. Middle and high school teachers don’t need to notify your students about this but if you want to be notified then sign up as a parent observer in canvas and you’ll get the announcements. Teachers can use their sick or personal leave without parent permission.

There are NO subs in APS. None. It is now March, and things happen where a teacher needs to be out. It is not their fault that there are no subs.

So let's discuss how this would be managed if the teachers and students were actually in school. These situations would NOT happen if schools were open. A teacher would plan his/her time off, and the school would find a way for someone to supervise a class, even if they send the students to the library to read.

What wouldn't happen is this free-for-all we are all experiencing. Ridiculous and appalling.

That’s what you imagine. In reality if there are no subs, they are sent to somewhere and play on their cell phones. So it’s not much different than OPs kid and Nintendo. They are not quietly sitting while reading in the library.

I have a 14-year old. I am pretty sure she's never sat around for an hour, playing on her phone during school hours (while in the building).

And especially not because the teacher got to caught up organizing their house on their lunch break. I like and respect so many of their teachers, so it was very surprising when this started happening.

I’m a teacher and there is no excuse for a teacher losing track of time and not logging in. In a normal year the sub shortage is real and a lot of subs are really terrible. We keep a “do not call” list of the worst and ask to not have them in our classes. Many subs don’t follow sub plans and the subs themselves on playing on their phones all class. Many high schoolers can definitely tell you how they sat with a sub and could do whatever they wanted for a class. A few students would use this time as a study hall.

I was sick one day this year and put up asynchronous work because there are not any virtual subs.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's teacher just changed the schedule so now in a two hour block in the morning they only have 30 min with the teacher (class split into 4 groups and teacher meets with each group for 30 min).

I have done this twice since the beginning of the school year, because I really needed to differentiate some instruction. The students who I was not meeting with had asynchronous work. This is not so different than what we would do in person. We pull small groups aside and everybody else in class will be working independently.

This. 30 minutes small group interaction with teacher > 2 hours large group interaction

Anonymous wrote:Let's all try to share stories like this with Duran. NOT in an effort to get any teachers fired. But to show him that everyone has their own level of risk they are willing to take, whether to see family, take a vacation, or get back in the classroom.

The OP’s story or the Disney story?

Let's all try to share stories like this with Duran. NOT in an effort to get any teachers fired. But to show him that everyone has their own level of risk they are willing to take, whether to see family, take a vacation, or get back in the classroom.

Anonymous wrote:Our es teacher in APS did 3 days from ski resort. Taught till almost lunch (11:30) then rest of days were asynchronous. After the first day we just skipped next 2 as it was total waste.

It sounds like she didn't even take leave for her vacation, which is taking advantage of the system. Report this!!! Teachers can skip school to run errands, go skiing, have fun trips to Disney while our kids suffer. This is NOT OK. I'm so furious.

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No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?

This is the reason why. The teacher would have to add the name of the sub (who they don't even know and do not arrange for themselves) to their canvas course, and the sub would have to know how to use Canvas and MS teams competently. These things aren't happening this year.

And THIS is yet another reason why DL isn't working!!

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Anonymous wrote:Middle School? perhaps the teacher is at Disney World.

Yes, middle school but not the same school as the Disney teacher.

Link to thread being referenced please?

Facebook group post. I cant' link it.

It is a 6th grade Swanson teacher and this really happened. The teacher even wrote in the asych assignment that she was at DisneyWorld and wouldn't be responding to messages that day. I'm actually surprised ArlNow hasn't picked up the story, given how many parents know about it.

Okay sorry I’m late to the party on this but did anything happen to her? Was she disciplined? Really it seems like somebody should get fired for this.

I mean I'm not sure why she should be fired- if we were in school like normal, this teacher would take leave and write sub plans (kind of like asynchronous work.) Difference now is there are no subs so admin told her to post the work for the week. Teachers still have to take leave when they are out and post asynchronous work. I think getting the vaccine might be the exception.

Oh right, of course if she took the time off officially it is fine (in the sense that she didn’t do anything wrong).

I mean it is fine- if she took the days off and was instructed by admin to post work while out then why in the world would she get disciplined or fired? I know nothing of this teacher or situation personally- maybe she's being a huge hypocrite and wants school virtual or maybe she's been wanting to go back in person since August. I also wouldn't personally be going on vacation right now but plenty of people are. But someone said this teacher should get fired and unless there is more to it- like the teacher lied to admin about the absences (which seems unlikely since she's broadcasting the fact that she's on vacation) then I'm not sure why people are calling for her job.

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Anonymous wrote:No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?

At the elementary level, if there aren't subs available, I think they should just double up classes when a teacher is out. Have another teacher in the same grade instruct two classes at once. Kids in K-2 aren't mature enough to manage asynchronous on their own. A big class is better than no class.

My FCPS kid has had this happen twice this year. It's worked out fine, certainly better than asynchronous would.

Our es teacher in APS did 3 days from ski resort. Taught till almost lunch (11:30) then rest of days were asynchronous. After the first day we just skipped next 2 as it was total waste.

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No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?

This is the reason why. The teacher would have to add the name of the sub (who they don't even know and do not arrange for themselves) to their canvas course, and the sub would have to know how to use Canvas and MS teams competently. These things aren't happening this year.

Seems like a school principal or AP could step in.

No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?

This is the reason why. The teacher would have to add the name of the sub (who they don't even know and do not arrange for themselves) to their canvas course, and the sub would have to know how to use Canvas and MS teams competently. These things aren't happening this year.

Anonymous wrote:No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?

At the elementary level, if there aren't subs available, I think they should just double up classes when a teacher is out. Have another teacher in the same grade instruct two classes at once. Kids in K-2 aren't mature enough to manage asynchronous on their own. A big class is better than no class.

No subs is difficult but there just aren’t enough subs who are trained in the technology or given canvas access to be able to run random classes. Teachers are still permitted to take sick or personal leave. Regardless of how you may feel about a teacher talk a trip (I do not feel comfortable traveling right now and wouldn’t be caught dead at Disney), if the teacher is using personal days there is nothing illegal about it and your anger is misplaced. Why would the teacher be disciplined for following APS guidelines to leave asynchronous work as directed by APS?