Anonymous
01/31/2021 13:44
Subject: VDA College Showcase
My U15 DD is playing some very high quality talent at this showcase that will give us insight to how we could do in the top division of the Jeff Cup. Those two will help focus their attention on gaps and issues prior to playing at ENCL NJ, which we are slated to go. These showcases aren't 100% about colleges at this weird point in the season, rather getting as much game time as possible and moving onto ENCL National events where all coaches will be present and likely VERY anxious to see some actual game time for players.
Anonymous
01/31/2021 13:42
Subject: Re:VDA College Showcase
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Favorite reply is D-1 will not be present so what's the point. This is what is wrong with most parents posting on this board. [/quote]
Paying $800 for two games when coaches can’t go is the point.
There are cheaper ways to get games on film. [/quote]
The PP's excellent point is that isn't not all about D1. Vast majority of DD/DS won't play D1. So, D2-JCs are free to attend. Who'll be there? I have no clue... but there are ton of possibilities with other schools other than D1, D1, D1, D1 or bust. Hope you're not filling your DD/DS head with D1 or bust.
Paying $800 for two games when coaches can’t go is the point.
There are cheaper ways to get games on film. [/quote]
The PP's excellent point is that isn't not all about D1. Vast majority of DD/DS won't play D1. So, D2-JCs are free to attend. Who'll be there? I have no clue... but there are ton of possibilities with other schools other than D1, D1, D1, D1 or bust. Hope you're not filling your DD/DS head with D1 or bust.
Anonymous
01/31/2021 12:55
Subject: Re:VDA College Showcase
[quote=Anonymous]Favorite reply is D-1 will not be present so what's the point. This is what is wrong with most parents posting on this board. [/quote]
Paying $800 for two games when coaches can’t go is the point.
There are cheaper ways to get games on film.
Paying $800 for two games when coaches can’t go is the point.
There are cheaper ways to get games on film.
Anonymous
01/31/2021 12:48
Subject: Re:VDA College Showcase
Favorite reply is D-1 will not be present so what's the point. This is what is wrong with most parents posting on this board.
Anonymous
01/30/2021 19:02
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Solid U13 matchups.
Bethesda U13B I think finished at the top of MLSNext League against DC United, SYA, Achilles, Armour, etc in the Fall. Very strong team. VDA and Richmond United were strong ECNL team's but Bethesda will probably win both of those games. McLean was at the bottom of ECNL so not much of a challenge.
Not sure how you could think that Bethesda finished at the top as I don't think scores or standings were posted for MLSNext U13B. Also, DC United does not have a U13B side. I would be surprised if Bethesda U13B beat Alexandria in MLSNext league play.
Richmond is a very strong team IMO. It will be interesting to see how Bethesda does against them....
Anonymous
01/28/2021 14:43
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is pretty much why a showcase is simply pointless now. There are other ways that cost less to get a game on film to send to a coach. It doesn’t make sense to pay a the money to enter a showcase where D1 can’t go to and the burden is still on the player to send film anyways.
Any league game provides the same opportunity to send film. Any scrimmage provides the same opportunity to send film.
And frankly, D1 coaches have seen enough film, they now want to see kids play in person. Any showcase attended before the dead period is ended is now mostly a waste of time and money. Clubs can simply call each other up, schedule scrimmages and accomplish the same thing for much less money.
Let me guess, you are either a BRYC or McLean parent on the outside of the VDA tournament looking in.
I'll be there and I still feel this way. It is a terrible waste of team fees. Until D1 coaches can actually attend in person anything that bills itself as a showcase is useless.
OK. But I'm still wondering...about how many kids per team actually reached out to these non-D1 coaches before hand and introduced themselves, etc.? I'm curious if this is happening and especially if no D1 coaches will be there. Thanks
If you are not at all interested in attending the school don't waste your time reaching out to the schools.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 14:42
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:We had national team scouts at a game in November. They are VERY interested in game film. This would lead me to believe sending any film to a coach you've already reached out to is better than nothing. Sitting at home is worse than playing against very high caliber local competition, which this showcase is doing. FTW
Of course playing and having film is better than nothing, that is not the point. The point is clubs can schedule scrimmages for a fraction of the cost of showcase that can't host any in person D1 coaches anyway. League games that are filmed will serve the same purpose. And considering most of the teams are local and league rivals it seems a waste of money to pay $800+ to play a team you play against regularly anyways.
D1 coaches are simply telling kids that they now want to see them in person.
So, to sophomores, the film might help get a kid on the radar. Great! But then again you have time.
Juniors/Seniors, you know by now coaches are telling you they want to see you in person if they are currently talking to you. There is very little new information that game film is going to do to change that currently.
I'm not against playing some soccer and it is great to get some games in but that money could be better spent later this spring/summer when D1 coaches can actually see the player in person.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 13:34
Subject: Re:VDA College Showcase
The tournament field looks very competitive. DD is very excited to play. Hopefully this isn’t a fluke.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 13:27
Subject: VDA College Showcase
We had national team scouts at a game in November. They are VERY interested in game film. This would lead me to believe sending any film to a coach you've already reached out to is better than nothing. Sitting at home is worse than playing against very high caliber local competition, which this showcase is doing. FTW
Anonymous
01/28/2021 13:20
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is pretty much why a showcase is simply pointless now. There are other ways that cost less to get a game on film to send to a coach. It doesn’t make sense to pay a the money to enter a showcase where D1 can’t go to and the burden is still on the player to send film anyways.
Any league game provides the same opportunity to send film. Any scrimmage provides the same opportunity to send film.
And frankly, D1 coaches have seen enough film, they now want to see kids play in person. Any showcase attended before the dead period is ended is now mostly a waste of time and money. Clubs can simply call each other up, schedule scrimmages and accomplish the same thing for much less money.
Let me guess, you are either a BRYC or McLean parent on the outside of the VDA tournament looking in.
I'll be there and I still feel this way. It is a terrible waste of team fees. Until D1 coaches can actually attend in person anything that bills itself as a showcase is useless.
OK. But I'm still wondering...about how many kids per team actually reached out to these non-D1 coaches before hand and introduced themselves, etc.? I'm curious if this is happening and especially if no D1 coaches will be there. Thanks
Anonymous
01/28/2021 13:10
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is pretty much why a showcase is simply pointless now. There are other ways that cost less to get a game on film to send to a coach. It doesn’t make sense to pay a the money to enter a showcase where D1 can’t go to and the burden is still on the player to send film anyways.
Any league game provides the same opportunity to send film. Any scrimmage provides the same opportunity to send film.
And frankly, D1 coaches have seen enough film, they now want to see kids play in person. Any showcase attended before the dead period is ended is now mostly a waste of time and money. Clubs can simply call each other up, schedule scrimmages and accomplish the same thing for much less money.
Let me guess, you are either a BRYC or McLean parent on the outside of the VDA tournament looking in.
I'll be there and I still feel this way. It is a terrible waste of team fees. Until D1 coaches can actually attend in person anything that bills itself as a showcase is useless.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 12:51
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:
This is pretty much why a showcase is simply pointless now. There are other ways that cost less to get a game on film to send to a coach. It doesn’t make sense to pay a the money to enter a showcase where D1 can’t go to and the burden is still on the player to send film anyways.
Any league game provides the same opportunity to send film. Any scrimmage provides the same opportunity to send film.
And frankly, D1 coaches have seen enough film, they now want to see kids play in person. Any showcase attended before the dead period is ended is now mostly a waste of time and money. Clubs can simply call each other up, schedule scrimmages and accomplish the same thing for much less money.
Let me guess, you are either a BRYC or McLean parent on the outside of the VDA tournament looking in.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 11:24
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff cup..another dead period showcase
Option A: play any game possible with a chance a D1 coach watches the live stream and/or game footage
Option B: sit at home
Not all games will be streamed and VDA is not bragging about ANY games being streamed.
We heard games will be taped so players can send footage to colleges after the tournament. Not streamed but taped which is just as good in my opinion.
And any plan old league game can be filmed and sent to coaches as well. Even a scrimmage for the cost of a ref. The whole point of a showcase is essentially the convenience factor for college coaches. If the coaches can’t come then what’s the point? Just arrange your own scrimmage or send leave game film instead of paying for a showcase that coaches can’t even attend. $800 per team down the drain for nothing.
“Setting up scrimmages” is harder than you’d think. There will be college coaches there. There were coaches at the Florida ecnl showcase.
Is this true...Someone told me that college coaches do NOT watch teams play. They watch individuals play. So if your kid wants a coach to watch them at one of these tournament/events, they need to send that coach a head of time...film of them, their grades, the time of their game, what field they are playing on, what team they are on, and their number, etc. This way the coach has a list of those players interested in THEIR program that are playing in each game THEY are attending and this way the coach can pay special attention to those players. Is this true? It makes sense to me because why would a college coach just watch a game? I mean, say a college coach just watches a game and likes a particular kid. Is that college coach supposed to contact that player's club coach, ask about grades, ask about their interest in playing college soccer, ask about their interested in their program, etc etc. Seems like it would be horribly inefficient and a possible colossal waste of the college coach's time if the kid wasn't even interested in that school or doesn't have the grades for that school, etc. but is just playing because their team is in this showcase. Thanks
This is true, the coach is there to watch the player, not to watch a team or a game.
So for this tournament, how many kids your kid's team have reached out ahead of time to a coach who is attending and provided all this information to a coach that is attending? Has your kid done this? If not, is your focus on getting film from this to send to coaches who are not attending?
This is pretty much why a showcase is simply pointless now. There are other ways that cost less to get a game on film to send to a coach. It doesn’t make sense to pay a the money to enter a showcase where D1 can’t go to and the burden is still on the player to send film anyways.
Any league game provides the same opportunity to send film. Any scrimmage provides the same opportunity to send film.
And frankly, D1 coaches have seen enough film, they now want to see kids play in person. Any showcase attended before the dead period is ended is now mostly a waste of time and money. Clubs can simply call each other up, schedule scrimmages and accomplish the same thing for much less money.
Anonymous
01/28/2021 11:12
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff cup..another dead period showcase
Option A: play any game possible with a chance a D1 coach watches the live stream and/or game footage
Option B: sit at home
Not all games will be streamed and VDA is not bragging about ANY games being streamed.
We heard games will be taped so players can send footage to colleges after the tournament. Not streamed but taped which is just as good in my opinion.
And any plan old league game can be filmed and sent to coaches as well. Even a scrimmage for the cost of a ref. The whole point of a showcase is essentially the convenience factor for college coaches. If the coaches can’t come then what’s the point? Just arrange your own scrimmage or send leave game film instead of paying for a showcase that coaches can’t even attend. $800 per team down the drain for nothing.
“Setting up scrimmages” is harder than you’d think. There will be college coaches there. There were coaches at the Florida ecnl showcase.
Is this true...Someone told me that college coaches do NOT watch teams play. They watch individuals play. So if your kid wants a coach to watch them at one of these tournament/events, they need to send that coach a head of time...film of them, their grades, the time of their game, what field they are playing on, what team they are on, and their number, etc. This way the coach has a list of those players interested in THEIR program that are playing in each game THEY are attending and this way the coach can pay special attention to those players. Is this true? It makes sense to me because why would a college coach just watch a game? I mean, say a college coach just watches a game and likes a particular kid. Is that college coach supposed to contact that player's club coach, ask about grades, ask about their interest in playing college soccer, ask about their interested in their program, etc etc. Seems like it would be horribly inefficient and a possible colossal waste of the college coach's time if the kid wasn't even interested in that school or doesn't have the grades for that school, etc. but is just playing because their team is in this showcase. Thanks
This is true, the coach is there to watch the player, not to watch a team or a game.
So for this tournament, how many kids your kid's team have reached out ahead of time to a coach who is attending and provided all this information to a coach that is attending? Has your kid done this? If not, is your focus on getting film from this to send to coaches who are not attending?
Anonymous
01/28/2021 10:29
Subject: VDA College Showcase
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff cup..another dead period showcase
Option A: play any game possible with a chance a D1 coach watches the live stream and/or game footage
Option B: sit at home
Not all games will be streamed and VDA is not bragging about ANY games being streamed.
We heard games will be taped so players can send footage to colleges after the tournament. Not streamed but taped which is just as good in my opinion.
And any plan old league game can be filmed and sent to coaches as well. Even a scrimmage for the cost of a ref. The whole point of a showcase is essentially the convenience factor for college coaches. If the coaches can’t come then what’s the point? Just arrange your own scrimmage or send leave game film instead of paying for a showcase that coaches can’t even attend. $800 per team down the drain for nothing.
“Setting up scrimmages” is harder than you’d think. There will be college coaches there. There were coaches at the Florida ecnl showcase.
There were no D1 coaches in Florida.