Anonymous
02/03/2021 09:09
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m on our swim team board for a large team. There is no way we would have real A meets and no B meets. That would be unfair to the vast majority of our swimmers. Only letting the strongest swimmers have the fun of a meet? That’s a non starter for me. If we can’t run B meets we won’t do As either.
You are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Maybe having only A meets would motivate the B swimmers to work harder.
most of the A meet swimmers (all of them once you get to the 11 year olds) at my pool do year round club swim. There is no amount of working harder that will make up for that much repetition year round
Anonymous
02/03/2021 09:07
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine letting teams mix at any kind of meet but I can see having practice time for different age groups within the team.
Teams could swim at their home pools and then the data from the two teams merged.
This idea was floated last spring before we knew what we were in for. I’m hoping for creative thinking like this if we can’t have limited capacity dual meets.
our pool did a couple of them, the kids enjoyed it and they pool did ribbons which made the little ones even happier
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:58
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Club teams are running several meets every weekend without issues. Some of these meets include several teams and they are all held indoors. There is no reason that the summer league can't figure out how to run outdoor meets four months from now.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:43
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:The larger swim clubs need B swimmer revenue to cover the costs of coaches etc. so it’s difficult to offer only A meets. If A meets are happening, it’s difficult to tell crazy A swim families that the pool is sitting out the season. It’s a quandary.
B meets, even with large teams, could be done in different sessions.
I am on the board of a small club, small team. We lost about 1/8 of our membership last year. If we can’t offer swim team (I assume we will be able to on some form), then I fear we will lose more membership. 2019 was a good year, but another year like last year might cause the club to close.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:20
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:I’m on our swim team board for a large team. There is no way we would have real A meets and no B meets. That would be unfair to the vast majority of our swimmers. Only letting the strongest swimmers have the fun of a meet? That’s a non starter for me. If we can’t run B meets we won’t do As either.
As the parent of B meet swimmers - I personally don’t care if the B meets are our pool only.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:10
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:I’m on our swim team board for a large team. There is no way we would have real A meets and no B meets. That would be unfair to the vast majority of our swimmers. Only letting the strongest swimmers have the fun of a meet? That’s a non starter for me. If we can’t run B meets we won’t do As either.
You are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Maybe having only A meets would motivate the B swimmers to work harder.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:06
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Maybe A and B meets can both be held “virtually”.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:06
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
The larger swim clubs need B swimmer revenue to cover the costs of coaches etc. so it’s difficult to offer only A meets. If A meets are happening, it’s difficult to tell crazy A swim families that the pool is sitting out the season. It’s a quandary.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:03
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:I’m on our swim team board for a large team. There is no way we would have real A meets and no B meets. That would be unfair to the vast majority of our swimmers. Only letting the strongest swimmers have the fun of a meet? That’s a non starter for me. If we can’t run B meets we won’t do As either.
You might have to opt out. No club will be required to hold meets.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 08:00
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
I’m on our swim team board for a large team. There is no way we would have real A meets and no B meets. That would be unfair to the vast majority of our swimmers. Only letting the strongest swimmers have the fun of a meet? That’s a non starter for me. If we can’t run B meets we won’t do As either.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 07:36
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine letting teams mix at any kind of meet but I can see having practice time for different age groups within the team.
Teams could swim at their home pools and then the data from the two teams merged.
It would still be complicated with large teams of 200+ kids.
B meets definitely. A meets you are talking 60 kids. Clubs are holding meets with 80 kids in a session. So it is doable.
I like the idea of merging meets from different swim locations (virtual) although it won't feel the same for the kids it is still racing.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 07:34
Subject: Re:Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone from my pool is on the nvsl reopen committee. IMO - he is awesome & I think he will try to get us able to do whatever Northam allows.
NVSL needs to give direction to the pools and standardize something for all the teams. Crossing fingers.
what kind of direction and standardization do you think should happen? Pools did a lot of different things last summer depending on the comfort level of the board/ physical layout of the pool/ membership, etc. e.g. some pools put out furniture others did not. Some pools sectioned off the pool and made people stick to a section, others did not. Some pools made everybody vacate after a time period to engage in some hygiene theater, others did not.
Obviously there are rules the NVSL puts forth with regard to swim meets, how many timers to have, qualifications of the referee, etc. This is within their 'swim lane.' But it would be highly inappropriate for the NVSL to start dictating to pools further directions that go beyond Phase 3 guidance (or whatever Phase we are in this summer.)
I think you went sideways when talking about the pools - we are talking about NVSL. If NVSL decideds to hold meets with one timer then we do that. If meets are virtual, we do that, etc. Nothing to do with the pool and its daily business.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 01:10
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine letting teams mix at any kind of meet but I can see having practice time for different age groups within the team.
Teams could swim at their home pools and then the data from the two teams merged.
This idea was floated last spring before we knew what we were in for. I’m hoping for creative thinking like this if we can’t have limited capacity dual meets.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 01:08
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine letting teams mix at any kind of meet but I can see having practice time for different age groups within the team.
It will be a numbers issue, there are teams mixing now for indoor meets.
Anonymous
02/03/2021 00:03
Subject: Summer League Swim 2021
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine letting teams mix at any kind of meet but I can see having practice time for different age groups within the team.
Teams could swim at their home pools and then the data from the two teams merged.
It would still be complicated with large teams of 200+ kids.
You could run different sessions, plus 200 swimmers aren't entered into an A meet.
A B meet would probably just be done with your own team, again split into sessions.