Anonymous wrote:When I went to college for engineering 20 years ago, only 10% of students were female. I viisted last year and it's about 50-50 now. The efforts to get girls to study STEM are really paying off.

But.. there are no efforts to get boys to study anything. It's like all the resources were directed to girls, and boys got nothing. It's sad.

Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is speeding up the mass disappearance of men from college
The decline in enrollment has been seven times as steep among men as among women

https://hechingerreport.org/the-pandemic-is-speeding-up-the-mass-disappearance-of-men-from-college/

Implication - it is going to be harder for the girls to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:This quotation resonated with me based on my experience with my boys, who are not POC. It is ever worse for boys of color.

"We have a lot of young men who are completely disengaged from our society because quite frankly they don’t feel they’re being valued as men. So they think, why even try when everybody sees me as a thug, as a delinquent, when everyone assumes the worst of me instead of assuming the best of me?”

Pedro Hidalgo, another senior at University Park, said he “never had that belief within myself” that he could go to college. Then “teachers in middle school actually helped me realize that I’m more than what I seem to think that I am at times. They just helped me progressively become more confident with my abilities, not even as just a student, but as a person.”

With the extreme demands put on teachers (administrative and otherwise), it is more difficult than ever for them to have the time to connect with those borderline/fringe students to help them become more confident. Instead, they are continuously told from a young age that they are bad, stupid, and hopeless, and that message is internalized.

That's very whiney and non-man like.

Maybe they don't treat you like a man because you don't behave like one?

If it's just one guy, your criticism is founded. If it's the entire generation (60% of college undergrads are female), then it's systemic.

A 10% imbalance is "the entire generation"?

You guys do this every time, like clockwork. Take a documented problem faced by black and brown boys, generalize it to white boys based on nothing, then claim it's oppression against white boys.

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Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is speeding up the mass disappearance of men from college
The decline in enrollment has been seven times as steep among men as among women

https://hechingerreport.org/the-pandemic-is-speeding-up-the-mass-disappearance-of-men-from-college/

Implication - it is going to be harder for the girls to get in.

Maybe we shouldn't worry about balance and let the person with the better grades etc get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Just one person’s observations:

I have 2 boys and 1 girl. All college educated with science degrees and all in various forms of health and tech. The youngest is currently a college junior. I think mostly it has to do with family expectations and helping them find a college setting in which they can thrive (not necessarily a top 20 school or whatever). Their friends I’ve seen falter had parents that were too hung up in pushing for collée and career, prestige, salary, etc.

I have 3 children, all boys. One is headed to college this fall (he's in at his first choice), one sophomore, one middle school. My sophomore likely will not go to college. We have been requesting accommodations from the school for 4 years to address his inattentive ADHD and executive function issues - the school has refused. DS has ended up with depression due to the school's refusal. We, his parents, have to put his mental health first. Unfortunately, the school refuses to educate him. Our family expectation was that all of our children would go to college. We didn't anticipate that the school system would fail one of our children so completely and dramatically.

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Anonymous wrote:This quotation resonated with me based on my experience with my boys, who are not POC. It is ever worse for boys of color.

"We have a lot of young men who are completely disengaged from our society because quite frankly they don’t feel they’re being valued as men. So they think, why even try when everybody sees me as a thug, as a delinquent, when everyone assumes the worst of me instead of assuming the best of me?”

Pedro Hidalgo, another senior at University Park, said he “never had that belief within myself” that he could go to college. Then “teachers in middle school actually helped me realize that I’m more than what I seem to think that I am at times. They just helped me progressively become more confident with my abilities, not even as just a student, but as a person.”

With the extreme demands put on teachers (administrative and otherwise), it is more difficult than ever for them to have the time to connect with those borderline/fringe students to help them become more confident. Instead, they are continuously told from a young age that they are bad, stupid, and hopeless, and that message is internalized.

This is why I like my son's all boys school, which has a lot of boys of color too.

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Anonymous wrote:Just one person’s observations:

I have 2 boys and 1 girl. All college educated with science degrees and all in various forms of health and tech. The youngest is currently a college junior. I think mostly it has to do with family expectations and helping them find a college setting in which they can thrive (not necessarily a top 20 school or whatever). Their friends I’ve seen falter had parents that were too hung up in pushing for collée and career, prestige, salary, etc.

I have 3 children, all boys. One is headed to college this fall (he's in at his first choice), one sophomore, one middle school. My sophomore likely will not go to college. We have been requesting accommodations from the school for 4 years to address his inattentive ADHD and executive function issues - the school has refused. DS has ended up with depression due to the school's refusal. We, his parents, have to put his mental health first. Unfortunately, the school refuses to educate him. Our family expectation was that all of our children would go to college. We didn't anticipate that the school system would fail one of our children so completely and dramatically.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to college for engineering 20 years ago, only 10% of students were female. I viisted last year and it's about 50-50 now. The efforts to get girls to study STEM are really paying off.

But.. there are no efforts to get boys to study anything. It's like all the resources were directed to girls, and boys got nothing. It's sad.

I guess men need to step up and start encouraging their sons to get into teaching and nursing. Why haven't men done this?

Because you can barely make a living as a teacher. How will men find wives when they care barely pay their own bills?

If men want equity they need to be willing to do this work, otherwise they're full of it. FYI: men with less money than teachers get married every day. Are you from the past??

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Anonymous wrote:Just one person’s observations:

I have 2 boys and 1 girl. All college educated with science degrees and all in various forms of health and tech. The youngest is currently a college junior. I think mostly it has to do with family expectations and helping them find a college setting in which they can thrive (not necessarily a top 20 school or whatever). Their friends I’ve seen falter had parents that were too hung up in pushing for collée and career, prestige, salary, etc.

I have 3 children, all boys. One is headed to college this fall (he's in at his first choice), one sophomore, one middle school. My sophomore likely will not go to college. We have been requesting accommodations from the school for 4 years to address his inattentive ADHD and executive function issues - the school has refused. DS has ended up with depression due to the school's refusal. We, his parents, have to put his mental health first. Unfortunately, the school refuses to educate him. Our family expectation was that all of our children would go to college. We didn't anticipate that the school system would fail one of our children so completely and dramatically.

If your son has been diagnosed with ADHD, has executive functioning issues, and attends a public school, he should be able to qualify for a 504 plan or possibly special education. There does have to be an impact on his education (academic or behavioral), but assuming the impact can be shown, ADHD is a medical diagnosis and is the reason many students qualify for 504 plans.

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Anonymous wrote:Just one person’s observations:

I have 2 boys and 1 girl. All college educated with science degrees and all in various forms of health and tech. The youngest is currently a college junior. I think mostly it has to do with family expectations and helping them find a college setting in which they can thrive (not necessarily a top 20 school or whatever). Their friends I’ve seen falter had parents that were too hung up in pushing for collée and career, prestige, salary, etc.

I have 3 children, all boys. One is headed to college this fall (he's in at his first choice), one sophomore, one middle school. My sophomore likely will not go to college. We have been requesting accommodations from the school for 4 years to address his inattentive ADHD and executive function issues - the school has refused. DS has ended up with depression due to the school's refusal. We, his parents, have to put his mental health first. Unfortunately, the school refuses to educate him. Our family expectation was that all of our children would go to college. We didn't anticipate that the school system would fail one of our children so completely and dramatically.

Anonymous wrote:This quotation resonated with me based on my experience with my boys, who are not POC. It is ever worse for boys of color.

"We have a lot of young men who are completely disengaged from our society because quite frankly they don’t feel they’re being valued as men. So they think, why even try when everybody sees me as a thug, as a delinquent, when everyone assumes the worst of me instead of assuming the best of me?”

Pedro Hidalgo, another senior at University Park, said he “never had that belief within myself” that he could go to college. Then “teachers in middle school actually helped me realize that I’m more than what I seem to think that I am at times. They just helped me progressively become more confident with my abilities, not even as just a student, but as a person.”

With the extreme demands put on teachers (administrative and otherwise), it is more difficult than ever for them to have the time to connect with those borderline/fringe students to help them become more confident. Instead, they are continuously told from a young age that they are bad, stupid, and hopeless, and that message is internalized.

Anonymous wrote:Parents are too quick to think their sons "aren't ready for college"