Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 13:30     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:What paperwork do you think undocumented immigrants aren't providing and why do you think they're not providing it?


Do you remember the Rockville HS case? When details came out about the two accused, it turned out that MCPS had no information about where one of the men were living.

In other words, they did not have an address on file for one student.

Meanwhile, some MCPS schools require all sorts of documentation regarding residency.

Schools are required to enroll any kid who shows up at the door. Like PP said, it is federal law. No much MCPS can do.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 12:10     Subject: Re:What is the deal with the dental form?
Where do they find these people?
My God, is there anything people do not complain about?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 11:58     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


The point is that your assertion is factually incorrect.

If the OP wants to pitch a huge fit on DCUM about not filling out the dental form due to lack of time (!), that's fine, but then to make false claims about undocumented kids in the process? Shameful.


The fact that in numerous criminal cases MCPS has been unable to state their own students' ages and addresses show that your assertion is factually incorrect.


Define "numerous," please.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 11:55     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


The point is that your assertion is factually incorrect.

If the OP wants to pitch a huge fit on DCUM about not filling out the dental form due to lack of time (!), that's fine, but then to make false claims about undocumented kids in the process? Shameful.


The fact that in numerous criminal cases MCPS has been unable to state their own students' ages and addresses show that your assertion is factually incorrect.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 09:53     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


They all have some kind of documentation. Stop making up stuff.


People seem to think that "undocumented" means "without any documentation of any papers of any kind whatsoever," rather than "without documentation of authorized presence in the country".
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2021 08:57     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I got a call from my kid’s new MCPS school asking for his asthma form and an inhaler. I told them I’d be happy to provide those things as soon as he is physically there. In the meanwhile, I promise not to call the school if he has an asthma attack during the virtual school day.


Did you opt in on the survey? Maybe they thinknthe school nurse might have her hands full if classes resume.

Of course if they didn't reach out to you before hand and the board of Ed called school back unexpectedly. You'd be moaning about how bo one ever asked you for your inhaler when they had all that time on their hands back in January.


They called in September. The main reason I pushed back is doctor charges for the form and insurance has a limit on the number of inhalers they will cover.


Right but you do comprehend why they asked for those things. It isn't insane for a school to request paperwork and medications to keep your child alive when school reopens. You get that, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 23:25     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I got a call from my kid’s new MCPS school asking for his asthma form and an inhaler. I told them I’d be happy to provide those things as soon as he is physically there. In the meanwhile, I promise not to call the school if he has an asthma attack during the virtual school day.


Did you opt in on the survey? Maybe they thinknthe school nurse might have her hands full if classes resume.

Of course if they didn't reach out to you before hand and the board of Ed called school back unexpectedly. You'd be moaning about how bo one ever asked you for your inhaler when they had all that time on their hands back in January.


They called in September. The main reason I pushed back is doctor charges for the form and insurance has a limit on the number of inhalers they will cover.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 23:00     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


They all have some kind of documentation. Stop making up stuff.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 23:00     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:I got a call from my kid’s new MCPS school asking for his asthma form and an inhaler. I told them I’d be happy to provide those things as soon as he is physically there. In the meanwhile, I promise not to call the school if he has an asthma attack during the virtual school day.


Did you opt in on the survey? Maybe they thinknthe school nurse might have her hands full if classes resume.

Of course if they didn't reach out to you before hand and the board of Ed called school back unexpectedly. You'd be moaning about how bo one ever asked you for your inhaler when they had all that time on their hands back in January.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 22:51     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
I got a call from my kid’s new MCPS school asking for his asthma form and an inhaler. I told them I’d be happy to provide those things as soon as he is physically there. In the meanwhile, I promise not to call the school if he has an asthma attack during the virtual school day.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 12:33     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


The point is that your assertion is factually incorrect.

If the OP wants to pitch a huge fit on DCUM about not filling out the dental form due to lack of time (!), that's fine, but then to make false claims about undocumented kids in the process? Shameful.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 11:26     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.


I'm an educational lawyer, including undocumented immigrants, the homeless, etc. I regularly help clients enroll their kids in schools (in DC, not MCPS, admittedly) and I do not believe for a second that enrollment without documentation is routine. Enrollment is a HUGE PIA for anyone without clear and good documentation or with unusual living circumstances. There are options for people without normal paperwork, but they require jumping through hoops that make having to take your kid to the dentist look laughably easy.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 11:13     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have refused to submit it. They allow undocumented children to attend school and I need to prove my kid goes to the dentist?!


It's federal law. Do you think it would be better for MCPS to disregard federal law? Do you think it would be better if undocumented children didn't attend school? Can you explain how this is relevant to the MCPS dental health form?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/forms/pdf/525-17.pdf


NP - The point is that kids are routinely enrolled in MCPS with NO documentation. But citizens are required to comply with numerous requirements for information outside the mission of the school district.

It is a common tactic in public health (my field) to use universal requirements like this to ensure compliance by a small, at-risk population. It is fine for people to push back. A one-time dental form will do nothing anyway. At least if you are going to do it, go full on with the annual form like DCPS. My MD son was a student at a DC private and it was a major pain, but it ensures the kids see a dentist.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 10:22     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Anonymous wrote:Vision is different than dental! Kids who can't see the whiteboard can't succeed in school.


What do you think teeth are? Extra, luxury bones?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2021 10:15     Subject: What is the deal with the dental form?
Vision is different than dental! Kids who can't see the whiteboard can't succeed in school.