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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

Lansdale is built on a tiny farm road that was bucolic even 5 years ago. You have signed up for overcrowded schools (Green Valley wasn’t meant to absorb all those kids and the Urbana schools are their own problem- even with a new elementary), a characterless neighborhood (no pool, no club, just a bunch of tract homes on old farmland), worsening traffic into Urbana, no walkability to anywhere, and tiny lots. Enjoy your commute into Urbana (which used to be a dream but is now a traffic issue unto itself) and down the hell of 270.

Lansdale still has it better than Linganore in terms of getting to 270. I've lived in Linganore for 20+ years and the roads in and out of Linganore have gone from bad to worse. The new residents don't seem to mind. They get here and enjoy their new digs, then end up complaining that there's no Trader Joe's or they have to drive 20 minutes to get a latte. Developers listen, and then in a couple years there are strip malls surrounding Linganore, turning it into another Germantown, which is ironic, because if they loved Germantown so much, they should have stayed there.

My sister moved from Moco (Richard Montgomery cluster) to Landsdale and commuted into DC twice a week. She quit. It's just a terrible commute and not easy to get to 270 at all. She loves her new home and likes her neighbors but still complains about the school; and how it's not challenging enough; and yes, not diverse enough. Her kid's school (Linganore HS) has like 2% black kids. Now she's complaining and saying that she should've just stayed or moved to Clarksburg or Urbana for a newer home.

Linganore, though not diverse, is a very good school. I live in Linganore, which is in the Oakdale feeder pattern. I know people in Lansdale and they're also upset that they are no longer in the Urbana feeder district. They bought in Lansdale because their home was marketed and sold as Urbana schools. Kind of ironic that while they "love" Frederick, they don't love Frederick schools, unless it's Urbana. Yes, Urbana is a great school and it is much more diverse than Linganore, but by and large the curriculum at Urbana is the same as it is at any Frederick County school. The Frederick BOE doesn't make a curriculum that's unique to Urbana...it's the same for every high school.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

Lansdale is built on a tiny farm road that was bucolic even 5 years ago. You have signed up for overcrowded schools (Green Valley wasn’t meant to absorb all those kids and the Urbana schools are their own problem- even with a new elementary), a characterless neighborhood (no pool, no club, just a bunch of tract homes on old farmland), worsening traffic into Urbana, no walkability to anywhere, and tiny lots. Enjoy your commute into Urbana (which used to be a dream but is now a traffic issue unto itself) and down the hell of 270.

Lansdale still has it better than Linganore in terms of getting to 270. I've lived in Linganore for 20+ years and the roads in and out of Linganore have gone from bad to worse. The new residents don't seem to mind. They get here and enjoy their new digs, then end up complaining that there's no Trader Joe's or they have to drive 20 minutes to get a latte. Developers listen, and then in a couple years there are strip malls surrounding Linganore, turning it into another Germantown, which is ironic, because if they loved Germantown so much, they should have stayed there.

My sister moved from Moco (Richard Montgomery cluster) to Landsdale and commuted into DC twice a week. She quit. It's just a terrible commute and not easy to get to 270 at all. She loves her new home and likes her neighbors but still complains about the school; and how it's not challenging enough; and yes, not diverse enough. Her kid's school (Linganore HS) has like 2% black kids. Now she's complaining and saying that she should've just stayed or moved to Clarksburg or Urbana for a newer home.

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Anonymous wrote:This, too is Frederick, MD:
“Others echoed that sentiment, though one Republican member of the Maryland House of Delegates attacked Vice President Pence for not acting to help overturn the election results. Earlier in the day, ahead of starting to preside over the confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s win, Pence had rejected Trump’s view that he could unilaterally reject electoral college votes from states lost by Trump.
“Pence is a traitor,” tweeted Del. Dan Cox (R-Frederick), a staunch Trump supporter.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/06/dc-protests-trump-rally-live-updates/

Could not pay me to move there.

Oh please...like frederick is the only place to have one of these. Educate yourself. Frederick is split 50/50 like many other places politically and someone like Cox is and would be regularly called out.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

Lansdale is built on a tiny farm road that was bucolic even 5 years ago. You have signed up for overcrowded schools (Green Valley wasn’t meant to absorb all those kids and the Urbana schools are their own problem- even with a new elementary), a characterless neighborhood (no pool, no club, just a bunch of tract homes on old farmland), worsening traffic into Urbana, no walkability to anywhere, and tiny lots. Enjoy your commute into Urbana (which used to be a dream but is now a traffic issue unto itself) and down the hell of 270.

Lansdale still has it better than Linganore in terms of getting to 270. I've lived in Linganore for 20+ years and the roads in and out of Linganore have gone from bad to worse. The new residents don't seem to mind. They get here and enjoy their new digs, then end up complaining that there's no Trader Joe's or they have to drive 20 minutes to get a latte. Developers listen, and then in a couple years there are strip malls surrounding Linganore, turning it into another Germantown, which is ironic, because if they loved Germantown so much, they should have stayed there.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

Lansdale is built on a tiny farm road that was bucolic even 5 years ago. You have signed up for overcrowded schools (Green Valley wasn’t meant to absorb all those kids and the Urbana schools are their own problem- even with a new elementary), a characterless neighborhood (no pool, no club, just a bunch of tract homes on old farmland), worsening traffic into Urbana, no walkability to anywhere, and tiny lots. Enjoy your commute into Urbana (which used to be a dream but is now a traffic issue unto itself) and down the hell of 270.

Anonymous wrote:This, too is Frederick, MD:
“Others echoed that sentiment, though one Republican member of the Maryland House of Delegates attacked Vice President Pence for not acting to help overturn the election results. Earlier in the day, ahead of starting to preside over the confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s win, Pence had rejected Trump’s view that he could unilaterally reject electoral college votes from states lost by Trump.
“Pence is a traitor,” tweeted Del. Dan Cox (R-Frederick), a staunch Trump supporter.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/06/dc-protests-trump-rally-live-updates/

Could not pay me to move there.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

Lansdale is built on a tiny farm road that was bucolic even 5 years ago. You have signed up for overcrowded schools (Green Valley wasn’t meant to absorb all those kids and the Urbana schools are their own problem- even with a new elementary), a characterless neighborhood (no pool, no club, just a bunch of tract homes on old farmland), worsening traffic into Urbana, no walkability to anywhere, and tiny lots. Enjoy your commute into Urbana (which used to be a dream but is now a traffic issue unto itself) and down the hell of 270.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

On a good day, that’s a rough commute. Landsdale and Urbana don’t have it as bad, since they are close to 270. Linganore is another story. Tons of new houses going in there and no infrastructure to support it. To get out of Lake Linganore, you have to take a bunch of winding country roads. These roads aren’t equipped to handle the influx of traffic. Even worse, these roads are not safe.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.

You too will become one of those people after you’ve done the Linganore - DC commute for a year or two. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

The association is doing extensive dredging on Merle. We get reports on the lakes that are part of the association and no, they are not terribly polluted. Either you are very uninformed or just trying to make a point that doesn't exist. You are welcome to look at the testing that the association conduct on their site. People have to live somewhere. For a single mom like myself, I couldn't afford anything closer to DC that has school as good as they are in New Market. Your main complaint seems to be that the roads don't wind around. I find that telling and absurd. Being this hostile towards your new neighbors is not something I expected when I moved up here.

“Uninformed?” Ther is no dredging on Lake Merhle. Dredging is on Lake Linganore. The dredging is needed due to years of over development. When forests are bulldozed, no ground cover to catch sediment.

I am not hostile to newcomers. My disdain is for developers and the crooked politicians who approved all this development.

OK I got Merle in Linganore confused for a second. Either way, this agreement was reached in 2014 with the county which means the sediment problem started long before that. I'm not sure how you can blame just new development for that, but ok.

I said “years” of overdevelopment. This implies it’s been going on for sometime and not just recently. Though the mess flowing into Sewer Merhle, err Lake Merhle, is recent, and due to Hamptons development. Please don’t let this info trouble you. I wouldn’t want to spoil the narrative that Ryan Homes sold you- ample green space, uncrowned schools, pristine lakes...etc.

You're so funny. What makes you think I don't know exactly what I bought? I offer these words of comfort to you: I and others buying from Ryan and other developers in the area, are here to stay. The faster you adapt (or leave, makes no difference to me), the better your life will be. Being angry and bitter is such a waster emotion.

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question, I don't know yet but will be moving to Landsdale in Monrovia, coming from MoCo. Looking forward to a younger community, good amenities, good schools. I am hoping there will be even more diversity with the new developments.

There are too many people on DCUM who think a long commute is the end of the world.