Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

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Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

OP, I also have an early elementary child who is new to her DCPS school, and I can't agree more. And our school has made no effort to help. The attitude seems to be to let parents figure it out on their own, but as a new family, we feel completely on our own. I feel particularly bad for our kid, because she knows that if she were in school in-person, she could be making friends, but DL doesn't facilitate that in any way. It might be sufficient for older kids to keep in touch with friends from prior years, but for kids this age (5-6) who don't already know each other, there's just no way for them to develop relationships.

I honestly feel equally frustrated with the union and DCPS itself. I do think the union has acted unreasonably at times, and I especially feel that their rhetoric has been divisive at a time when it's particularly unproductive. I can support teachers and want them to have reasonable safety measures, and also want schools to open, and those are not inconsistent positions. But DCPS and Bowser have been equally terrible, and are too happy to blame the union for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault at all. The union is not the reason DL is so inadequate and bad -- that's due to Central Office policies that ignore what teachers know is the better pedagogical approach. And the union isn't at fault for DCPS's terrible communication, and their refusal to really engage parents and teachers on what is working (and what is very much not) and how best to meet the needs of kids and families.

Honestly, if DCPS had engaged parents early and listened, I think they would have had an easier time negotiating with the union. Part of the problem is that they kept everyone in the dark and then when they announced things, teachers and parents alike were confused and frustrated. I do think there is some political posturing among parents (some people claim to love DL or act like opening schools is an automatic death sentence, which it clearly is not) but I also think a lot of parents sided with teachers because they know them, they actually talk to them, and DCPS has offered so little in the way of communication or leadership.

What a mess.

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

Anonymous wrote:Just wait. The teachers will refuse the vaccine and insist on never going back.

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It sucks for everyone. Why do you think you would be spared?

Because I don't accept that people who have money for private or are in Catholic schools (or in publics in other states) are somehow more resistant to the virus.

Catholic schools have required faculty and staff to sign liability waivers. Private school families that are not adhering to guidelines are being kicked out (see the Kushners) but generally speaking private school families have higher levels of education and social trust and less exposure due to their jobs.

Not comparable to DCPS.

Public schools EVERYWHERE are open - in the US and internationally. You're copping out. DCPS serves kids who need to be in school the most; therefore, they should be making the biggest effort. The real reason we're not in school is the teacher's union refusing to do it, not any of the things you listed.

DCPS is open. It’s open via DL. You just don’t like it.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh yay! Another thread of entitled parents ranting about the pandemic.


It sucks for everyone. Why do you think you would be spared?

Because I don't accept that people who have money for private or are in Catholic schools (or in publics in other states) are somehow more resistant to the virus.

Catholic schools have required faculty and staff to sign liability waivers. Private school families that are not adhering to guidelines are being kicked out (see the Kushners) but generally speaking private school families have higher levels of education and social trust and less exposure due to their jobs.

Not comparable to DCPS.

Public schools EVERYWHERE are open - in the US and internationally. You're copping out. DCPS serves kids who need to be in school the most; therefore, they should be making the biggest effort. The real reason we're not in school is the teacher's union refusing to do it, not any of the things you listed.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh yay! Another thread of entitled parents ranting about the pandemic.


It sucks for everyone. Why do you think you would be spared?

Because I don't accept that people who have money for private or are in Catholic schools (or in publics in other states) are somehow more resistant to the virus.

Catholic schools have required faculty and staff to sign liability waivers. Private school families that are not adhering to guidelines are being kicked out (see the Kushners) but generally speaking private school families have higher levels of education and social trust and less exposure due to their jobs.

Not comparable to DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh yay! Another thread of entitled parents ranting about the pandemic.


It sucks for everyone. Why do you think you would be spared?

Because I don't accept that people who have money for private or are in Catholic schools (or in publics in other states) are somehow more resistant to the virus.

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It sucks for everyone. Why do you think you would be spared?

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Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

You mean updates from DCPS that 18 CAREs staff have tested positive for COVID-19 and its not public?

Remember you want these CARE classrooms for the poor black and brown kids - who now get to take COVID-19 home to their parents doing shift work because now their kids are in CARE classrooms.

Yeah DCPS has no plan to update people with the public health issues that are the cause for the CARES room to begin with.

Prove it. And anecdotal reports to the WTU don't count, are not proof, are not reliable, etc. And if you are trying to suggest that assignment to the CARE classroom is where a person contracted the virus, please prove that too.

Here you go - https://twitter.com/AnnaLysaGayle/status/1332447764198920192?s=20

BTW she's a reporter but you can call her a WTU shill. But she sites DC gov information.

I have copied in the original source for citation purposes. Since when does quarantine = # of positive cases?
November 27, 2020

DCPS Personnel Working In-Person

Total Number of Personnel Tested Positive – Confirmed: 3
Total Number of Personnel Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 3
Total Number of Personnel Currently in Quarantine: 18
DCPS Students Participating in In-Person Activities

Total Number of Students Tested Positive – Confirmed: 0
Total Number of Students Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 1
Total Number of Students Currently in Quarantine: 16

Do you really not understand that this means there are 3-6 positive staff cases and 12 others quarantining as a result? Also, the fact that there are 0-1 kid cases suggests that the children were not the source and the in classroom safeguards are sufficient. We have no way of knowing if there may have been in school transmission in the other cases, but it’s more likely that this is in line with rising city rates.

But you do understand this mean that 18 people are quarantining meaning not in school watching kids in mask doing DL so parents can have their "freedom". Again no disrespect for the parents who are shift workers and need this option.

But still only 50% of the spots available are being used so this isn't a high demand for most people.

16 kids in quarantine means that 16 kids now have to shift their schedule and stuff and do DL at home; families have to quarantine (so no shift work for parents); no parks for kids. What a great start.

how many kids are doing this now and 16 are out? Is this a success or a failure?

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Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

You mean updates from DCPS that 18 CAREs staff have tested positive for COVID-19 and its not public?

Remember you want these CARE classrooms for the poor black and brown kids - who now get to take COVID-19 home to their parents doing shift work because now their kids are in CARE classrooms.

Yeah DCPS has no plan to update people with the public health issues that are the cause for the CARES room to begin with.

Prove it. And anecdotal reports to the WTU don't count, are not proof, are not reliable, etc. And if you are trying to suggest that assignment to the CARE classroom is where a person contracted the virus, please prove that too.

Here you go - https://twitter.com/AnnaLysaGayle/status/1332447764198920192?s=20

BTW she's a reporter but you can call her a WTU shill. But she sites DC gov information.

I have copied in the original source for citation purposes. Since when does quarantine = # of positive cases?
November 27, 2020

DCPS Personnel Working In-Person

Total Number of Personnel Tested Positive – Confirmed: 3
Total Number of Personnel Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 3
Total Number of Personnel Currently in Quarantine: 18
DCPS Students Participating in In-Person Activities

Total Number of Students Tested Positive – Confirmed: 0
Total Number of Students Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 1
Total Number of Students Currently in Quarantine: 16

Do you really not understand that this means there are 3-6 positive staff cases and 12 others quarantining as a result? Also, the fact that there are 0-1 kid cases suggests that the children were not the source and the in classroom safeguards are sufficient. We have no way of knowing if there may have been in school transmission in the other cases, but it’s more likely that this is in line with rising city rates.

But you do understand this mean that 18 people are quarantining meaning not in school watching kids in mask doing DL so parents can have their "freedom". Again no disrespect for the parents who are shift workers and need this option.

But still only 50% of the spots available are being used so this isn't a high demand for most people.

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Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

You mean updates from DCPS that 18 CAREs staff have tested positive for COVID-19 and its not public?

Remember you want these CARE classrooms for the poor black and brown kids - who now get to take COVID-19 home to their parents doing shift work because now their kids are in CARE classrooms.

Yeah DCPS has no plan to update people with the public health issues that are the cause for the CARES room to begin with.

Prove it. And anecdotal reports to the WTU don't count, are not proof, are not reliable, etc. And if you are trying to suggest that assignment to the CARE classroom is where a person contracted the virus, please prove that too.

Here you go - https://twitter.com/AnnaLysaGayle/status/1332447764198920192?s=20

BTW she's a reporter but you can call her a WTU shill. But she sites DC gov information.

I have copied in the original source for citation purposes. Since when does quarantine = # of positive cases?
November 27, 2020

DCPS Personnel Working In-Person

Total Number of Personnel Tested Positive – Confirmed: 3
Total Number of Personnel Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 3
Total Number of Personnel Currently in Quarantine: 18
DCPS Students Participating in In-Person Activities

Total Number of Students Tested Positive – Confirmed: 0
Total Number of Students Reported Positive – Pending Confirmation: 1
Total Number of Students Currently in Quarantine: 16

Do you really not understand that this means there are 3-6 positive staff cases and 12 others quarantining as a result? Also, the fact that there are 0-1 kid cases suggests that the children were not the source and the in classroom safeguards are sufficient. We have no way of knowing if there may have been in school transmission in the other cases, but it’s more likely that this is in line with rising city rates.