Anonymous wrote:Is there a public meeting on this tonight? I can’t find the link to watch.

https://www.apsva.us/school-board-meetings/watch-school-board-meetings/

Is there a public meeting on this tonight? I can’t find the link to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

100% this. They could care less about the actual boundaries, they just don't want Key to move. It's also important to their self concept that they are 'immersion parents' and view themselves as carrying about others, so they continue to pretend to themselves that they are looking out for someone else. Its all about stopping the Key move for their own convenience. I have lost all respect for Key parents.

Who are the parents that don't want the Key to move?

1. Spanish speaking families currently attending Key who live near the Key school (on Key)
2. Non-Spanish speaking families currently attending Key who live near the Key school (On Key)
3. Spanish speaking families attending Key who live in the non-Key PUs
4. Non-Spanish speaking families attending Key who live in the non-Key PUs
5. Spanish speaking families not attending Key who live near the new school at the Key site
6. Non-Spanish speaking families not attending Key who live near the new school at the Key site

Seems like the loudest protestors are #4.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

100% this. They could care less about the actual boundaries, they just don't want Key to move. It's also important to their self concept that they are 'immersion parents' and view themselves as carrying about others, so they continue to pretend to themselves that they are looking out for someone else. Its all about stopping the Key move for their own convenience. I have lost all respect for Key parents.

Who are the parents that don't want the Key to move?

1. Spanish speaking families currently attending Key who live near the Key school (on Key)
2. Non-Spanish speaking families currently attending Key who live near the Key school (On Key)
3. Spanish speaking families attending Key who live in the non-Key PUs
4. Non-Spanish speaking families attending Key who live in the non-Key PUs
5. Spanish speaking families not attending Key who live near the new school at the Key site
6. Non-Spanish speaking families not attending Key who live near the new school at the Key site

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Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

100% this. They could care less about the actual boundaries, they just don't want Key to move. It's also important to their self concept that they are 'immersion parents' and view themselves as carrying about others, so they continue to pretend to themselves that they are looking out for someone else. Its all about stopping the Key move for their own convenience. I have lost all respect for Key parents.

To be fair, it's really only a handful of a-holes. They should be focusing on getting support for turning that nice ATS parcel into an immersion K-8 academy, but they're still busy making enemies and burning everything down.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

100% this. They could care less about the actual boundaries, they just don't want Key to move. It's also important to their self concept that they are 'immersion parents' and view themselves as carrying about others, so they continue to pretend to themselves that they are looking out for someone else. Its all about stopping the Key move for their own convenience. I have lost all respect for Key parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they may change it again— a lot of people have said they don’t like the most recent proposal.

A lot of people will dislike any proposal. Time to move forward.

Seconded. This proposal actually checks off multiple criteria that APS has mentioned they consider during the process such as this.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

Yes, it's clear they have other motives. Do they really want Reed to sit empty for a year?

Anyway, I find it quite disgusting that they are exploiting other families for their own purposes. Just like last time.

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

Some of the people complaining the loudest flat out don’t want Key to move, and are lobbying hard to: 1. Halt the current process under the guise of avoiding inequality, so that they can: 2. Then get the school board to revisit the Key move.

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

The current proposal isn't bad, I think the main complaints are that it still zones out walkable planning units to Key (the area south of Wilson), and concentrates all of the affordable housing on the eastern side of the county at one school. I don't think they intended that, and I don't think the school board is smart enough to realize this limits their options in the future.
That being said, they keep saying they can't make changes because it limits options in the future. If they had known that there wouldn't be a county wide boundary process in 2020, they probably would have changed more in 2018. By the time they revisit it, no one affected by 2018 will be affected again in 2023. They could do something dramatic without anyone being able to complain.

What I don’t get is what they think APS should do. They either further segregation or make a boundary that is not convenient for every single fr/l student in the entire area, which is impossible anyway. It’s not like all the people in Rosslyn are used to having a walkable school. Moving the N of Lee Hwy units to Taylor doesn’t make their lives any more difficult. They are on a bus to school in every scenario. And sending all of LV to ASFS or Taylor just perpetuates the segregation needlessly, and it doesn’t even improve proximity and walkability. It meets none of the criteria they are supposed to consider. That would be giving the rich people what they want. They didn’t kick immersion out of Key, they never wanted to go to Key.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they may change it again— a lot of people have said they don’t like the most recent proposal.

Who else dislikes it aside from the PUs north of Lee Hwy?

Lyon Village is being half zoned, and half of them are going to an overcrowded high FARMS school.

I thought the rich people got what they wanted. No?

Only if you don’t question AEM.

We are new to APS/AEM. Who are those nuts calling everyone racists?

People who live in $1m+ houses in neighborhoods with no socioeconomic diversity who like to accuse OTHER people of being scared to live near poor people. They are somehow exempt from the same kind of summary judgement for... reasons.

Hey, as long as you clarify that you don’t live amongst “your people” it’s all good, right? You can choose your neighborhood based on whatever criteria you want, as long as you publicly insult your neighbors for doing the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they may change it again— a lot of people have said they don’t like the most recent proposal.

Who else dislikes it aside from the PUs north of Lee Hwy?

Lyon Village is being half zoned, and half of them are going to an overcrowded high FARMS school.

I thought the rich people got what they wanted. No?

Only if you don’t question AEM.

We are new to APS/AEM. Who are those nuts calling everyone racists?

People who live in $1m+ houses in neighborhoods with no socioeconomic diversity who like to accuse OTHER people of being scared to live near poor people. They are somehow exempt from the same kind of summary judgement for... reasons.

Yes to the above re AEM. If you’re new to APS, do yourself an enormous favor and stay off AEM. It will make you feel worse about virtually everything school related and it will make you question why you live here and why you’re sending your kids to these schools with people like this. If you insist on remaining a member, please try to remember this is a tiny subset of parents and they do not represent most of Arlington, which is actually a diverse and largely wonderful community of people.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they may change it again— a lot of people have said they don’t like the most recent proposal.

Who else dislikes it aside from the PUs north of Lee Hwy?

Lyon Village is being half zoned, and half of them are going to an overcrowded high FARMS school.

I thought the rich people got what they wanted. No?

Only if you don’t question AEM.

We are new to APS/AEM. Who are those nuts calling everyone racists?

AEM is an echo chamber ruled by a pack of likeminded “do gooders” with hidden agendas. They use accusations of racism as a tool to shut people up and to further their own interests.