Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 18:27     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've heard some interesting things about BRYC. From what parents have explained they like to pool their girls, like on a U15 squad, and then pick those who'll be on the first team each week. There may be some girls who are consistently on the primary team, but they lose a lot of cohesion playing together all the time at practice and in games, when the situation is way different. Dunno... they used to be stout and in some U-groups, they don't have a single win yet.


This is true and it gives girls who would not be playing ECNL a chance and they really try to get everyone in. I have seen this for a few years. U16 that goes away and this team will be a stronger for it.


BRYC is bottom of the U16 table too in ECNL, so again... what's the point? I'm sure every club can have a "deep field" if 10-15 decent players are mixed in weekly with the 7-9 girls who are consistently on the top team. I don't see the merit in getting beat every week with the mantra of "good try, we almost TIED!" I guess each club needs their wrinkle to be different, this is their thing. I know awesome girls who have left because of this exact teaming style though...
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 16:51     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
time to wrap it up and call it a day
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 16:44     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:I've heard some interesting things about BRYC. From what parents have explained they like to pool their girls, like on a U15 squad, and then pick those who'll be on the first team each week. There may be some girls who are consistently on the primary team, but they lose a lot of cohesion playing together all the time at practice and in games, when the situation is way different. Dunno... they used to be stout and in some U-groups, they don't have a single win yet.


This is true and it gives girls who would not be playing ECNL a chance and they really try to get everyone in. I have seen this for a few years. U16 that goes away and this team will be a stronger for it.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 14:57     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:I've heard some interesting things about BRYC. From what parents have explained they like to pool their girls, like on a U15 squad, and then pick those who'll be on the first team each week. There may be some girls who are consistently on the primary team, but they lose a lot of cohesion playing together all the time at practice and in games, when the situation is way different. Dunno... they used to be stout and in some U-groups, they don't have a single win yet.


The u15 group is quite deep with talent and are in fact #1 in NCSL number 1 bracket playing up a year at u16. The ECNL u15 group not doing nearly as well; maybe it’s a question of better mixing the players between these 2 groups to find the right combo.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 13:26     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Their younger teams play in NCSL. From what I've seen as a parent, they don't have enough young players or teams at the younger ages. There are some great teams that are under the bryc elite name but are black teams. There is such a disconnect between elite and the black teams. It is so odd that there are never any trainings together. No communication from the club.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 13:02     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IMHO there are a couple of things going on at BRYC at least on the girls side. At pre-ECNL (U12 and younger) there is no pipeline of talent coming in. They seem to have a handful of talent at these ages but mostly in the midfield and a big drop off in talent in the front and back line. They don't play in a league, so I've only seen them in a few tournaments and scrimmages but the play style is consistent and possession oriented out of the back. They seem to value technical skills as their teams are generally small technical girls.

Once these teams age into the ENCL league (U13) they seem behind in terms of physicality and overall competitiveness. Years ago, BRYC used to be a small destination club. Now with so many option or for whatever reason, they feel like just a small club. Why send your girl there if you can go to McLean or VDA or Arlington. If you're out west, you'll go to Loudoun or Metro. So at ECNL ages, the influx of talent is no longer coming in, which I believe is a function of dilution. Again, the play style seems consistent and generally, I believe they are probably too good for CCL but not good enough for ENCL. I also believe their academy style of running the club where there is a player pool also probably adds to the dilution of talent within BRYC.

With LB and MW leaving, it appears that BRYC is continuing to deteriorate into an even smaller club. I could see a BRYC - FCV merger if the logistics could work as I doubt someone at Robinson would want to go to practice in Loudoun and vice versa. A BRYC - VDA merger would make more sense to create a southern Fairfax, PW destination club.


VDA has tried to add a third club from Fairfax twice. Did not work either time. Why would VDA do that? MW is going to recruit all the top bryc players to vda anyways.



Take two pieces of turd and put them together and presto, you get a bigger piece of turd.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:58     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:IMHO there are a couple of things going on at BRYC at least on the girls side. At pre-ECNL (U12 and younger) there is no pipeline of talent coming in. They seem to have a handful of talent at these ages but mostly in the midfield and a big drop off in talent in the front and back line. They don't play in a league, so I've only seen them in a few tournaments and scrimmages but the play style is consistent and possession oriented out of the back. They seem to value technical skills as their teams are generally small technical girls.

Once these teams age into the ENCL league (U13) they seem behind in terms of physicality and overall competitiveness. Years ago, BRYC used to be a small destination club. Now with so many option or for whatever reason, they feel like just a small club. Why send your girl there if you can go to McLean or VDA or Arlington. If you're out west, you'll go to Loudoun or Metro. So at ECNL ages, the influx of talent is no longer coming in, which I believe is a function of dilution. Again, the play style seems consistent and generally, I believe they are probably too good for CCL but not good enough for ENCL. I also believe their academy style of running the club where there is a player pool also probably adds to the dilution of talent within BRYC.

With LB and MW leaving, it appears that BRYC is continuing to deteriorate into an even smaller club. I could see a BRYC - FCV merger if the logistics could work as I doubt someone at Robinson would want to go to practice in Loudoun and vice versa. A BRYC - VDA merger would make more sense to create a southern Fairfax, PW destination club.


VDA has tried to add a third club from Fairfax twice. Did not work either time. Why would VDA do that? MW is going to recruit all the top bryc players to vda anyways.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:40     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
huge player pools and no league means money in the pockets of the coaches. Coaches coaching too many teams. Money grab

Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:39     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Playing in ecnl is appealing but not when it's a team that's at the bottom or second to bottom.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:39     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:IMHO there are a couple of things going on at BRYC at least on the girls side. At pre-ECNL (U12 and younger) there is no pipeline of talent coming in. They seem to have a handful of talent at these ages but mostly in the midfield and a big drop off in talent in the front and back line. They don't play in a league, so I've only seen them in a few tournaments and scrimmages but the play style is consistent and possession oriented out of the back. They seem to value technical skills as their teams are generally small technical girls.

Once these teams age into the ENCL league (U13) they seem behind in terms of physicality and overall competitiveness. Years ago, BRYC used to be a small destination club. Now with so many option or for whatever reason, they feel like just a small club. Why send your girl there if you can go to McLean or VDA or Arlington. If you're out west, you'll go to Loudoun or Metro. So at ECNL ages, the influx of talent is no longer coming in, which I believe is a function of dilution. Again, the play style seems consistent and generally, I believe they are probably too good for CCL but not good enough for ENCL. I also believe their academy style of running the club where there is a player pool also probably adds to the dilution of talent within BRYC.

With LB and MW leaving, it appears that BRYC is continuing to deteriorate into an even smaller club. I could see a BRYC - FCV merger if the logistics could work as I doubt someone at Robinson would want to go to practice in Loudoun and vice versa. A BRYC - VDA merger would make more sense to create a southern Fairfax, PW destination club.


Fcv will move to Robinson and take their ecnl spot. Welcome new member of TSJ
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:25     Subject: Re:BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
IMHO there are a couple of things going on at BRYC at least on the girls side. At pre-ECNL (U12 and younger) there is no pipeline of talent coming in. They seem to have a handful of talent at these ages but mostly in the midfield and a big drop off in talent in the front and back line. They don't play in a league, so I've only seen them in a few tournaments and scrimmages but the play style is consistent and possession oriented out of the back. They seem to value technical skills as their teams are generally small technical girls.

Once these teams age into the ENCL league (U13) they seem behind in terms of physicality and overall competitiveness. Years ago, BRYC used to be a small destination club. Now with so many option or for whatever reason, they feel like just a small club. Why send your girl there if you can go to McLean or VDA or Arlington. If you're out west, you'll go to Loudoun or Metro. So at ECNL ages, the influx of talent is no longer coming in, which I believe is a function of dilution. Again, the play style seems consistent and generally, I believe they are probably too good for CCL but not good enough for ENCL. I also believe their academy style of running the club where there is a player pool also probably adds to the dilution of talent within BRYC.

With LB and MW leaving, it appears that BRYC is continuing to deteriorate into an even smaller club. I could see a BRYC - FCV merger if the logistics could work as I doubt someone at Robinson would want to go to practice in Loudoun and vice versa. A BRYC - VDA merger would make more sense to create a southern Fairfax, PW destination club.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:17     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What caused this....start with that


A major cause is dilution. When you have only a handful of key players it doesn't take much of an event in this environment to cause players to flee and weaken teams considerably.


Then what's the answer


The ultimate solution is some consolidation of clubs at the elite level. Alternately, step back from competing a level to EDP or NCSL. Through all this,continue to grow and attract high quality coaching.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 12:01     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What caused this....start with that


A major cause is dilution. When you have only a handful of key players it doesn't take much of an event in this environment to cause players to flee and weaken teams considerably.


Then what's the answer
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 11:43     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Other than their oldest team, they are in last or almost-last place in every ECNL age group. Time to admit defeat and merge with someone else.


Interesting. I was looking at ECNL boys and girls for NOVA clubs and it seems like Loudoun is in just about the same situation as BRYC. Who can they merge with?


If there are two weak clubs why would the parents want to merge? What happens is the stringer players go to whatever club is seem as strong. Everyone....well.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2020 11:23     Subject: BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen
Anonymous wrote:What caused this....start with that


A major cause is dilution. When you have only a handful of key players it doesn't take much of an event in this environment to cause players to flee and weaken teams considerably.